One T206, Two Names

[edjs]

Originally Posted by The Nasty Nati

Ed, does your Chappelle/Chappelle have the same back as the Chappelle/Shaw?

No, it's a Sweet Cap 350. But the two would look so cool lined up together.

[Luke]

Nice get Erick!

Recently, Pat R showed that each player was likely printed 9 in a row vertically. This is why there are plenty of cards with the same name on top and bottom, and very few 2 different namers.

[t206hound]

Originally Posted by edjs

No, it's a Sweet Cap 350. But the two would look so cool lined up together.

Kind of like this?



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[edjs]

Originally Posted by t206hound

Kind of like this?

Something more like this, with another Chappelle on top (and better scans from actually having the cards in hand, and a little tweeking to line them all up, because you can with raw cards). You get the idea.

[Jantz]

The Nasty Nati - Prices for two different namers vary as Er!ck has mentioned. 5-7 years ago I was buying them with no premium. The Spade posted below was picked up at the first Baltimore National for under $30. Two hundred dollars in my opinion is a good price. It would have gone higher if I had seen it.

edjs - Sorry if it sounded like I was scolding you. Another case of me offering helpful advice, just worded badly. Since you didn't win the Shaw/Chappelle, maybe you can get another Chappelle/Chappelle with a different back. It happens quite a bit with miscuts. A collector could possibly do a back run with a same name miscut T206. Take a look at the Donovans below.

Er!ck - Why didn't you PM me before the auction ended? You know that you are my favorite board member to bid against! Nice card! I'm happy to see it go into your collection.

Jantz

[Luke]

Jantz, if any cards I post ever interest you, and either Spade or Lindaman are ever available. please let me know. Amazing cards!

[edjs]

Jantz, you did notice the lol in (), right? I seem to have forgotten the three to five day after auction rule for e-bay that day. (Lol).

[Jantz]

Luke - Thank you for the comment. If the Spade ever becomes available I will keep you mind. The chances are slim though. I really like the two different namers. The Lindaman is already reserved.

Ed - Oh yes, I saw the "lol". Its all good my friend.


Jantz

[t206hound]

I believe this captures the updates (in RED):

American Beauty 350 framed
Hinchman, H. - Taylor

Cycle 350
Beck - Unglaub

El Principe De Gales
Young - Rucker

Old Mill
Griffith (port.) - Chase (?)

Piedmont 150
Bender (port.) - Delehanty (Wash.)
Brown, M (port.) - Magee (port.)
Bradley (port.) - Bender (port.)
Killian (pitching) - Chance (red port.)
Lindaman - Bresnahan (port.)
Lundgren (Cubs) - Doolin
Lundgren (Cubs) - Ball (New York)
Powell (horizontal) - O'Leary (port.)
Spade - Cicotte
Hinchman, B. - Stovall (port.)
Manning (batting) - Flick
Walsh - Seymour (batting)
Johnson (port.) - Schlei (catching)
Bergen (bat) - Dooin
Shipke - Griffith
Beaumont - Seymour

Piedmont 350
Abbaticchio (brown) - Cicotte
Atz - Hoffman (Providence)
Chase (blue port.) - Zimmerman
Hoblitzell - Stephens
Jennings (port.) - Jordan (port.)
Livingstone - Maloney
McElveen - Dygert
Elberfeld (NY port.) - Parent
Engle - Phillippe
McGraw (no cap port.) - Chesbro
Moran, H. - Arrellanes
Oakes - Easterly
Snodgrass (batting) - Maddox
Rossman - McBride
Turner - Lobert
Egan - Warhop
Herzog (NY) - Ritchey
McGinley - Speaker
Griffith (port.) - Chase (?)
Jackson - Hoffman (St. Louis)
Butler - Raymond
McIntyre (Detroit) - Hoffman (St. Louis)
Walsh - Brown, M (port.)
Chance (yellow port.) - Feine (?)
Delehanty (Wash.) - Waddell (port.)
Hunter - Quinn
Ganzel - Downs
Chase (White Cap) - Jacklitsch
Shaw - Chappelle

Sweet Caporal 350-30
Barbeau - Strang
Graham (St. Louis) - Clark (Columbus)
Killian (port.) - Dubuc
McGlynn - Jones (Detroit)
Rossman - Thomas
Wagner, Heinie (left shoulder) - Schlei (catching)

Sweet Caporal 350-25
Lennox - Clancy

Sweet Caporal - factory number unknown
McGraw (front ?) - Hayden
Pickering - Myers (front )
Bowerman - Chance (front ?)

The rest - back information unknown or damaged
Walsh - Lumley Piedmont (back damage - no series number)
Bresnahan (port.) - Doolin
Criger - Ritchey
Keeler (front ?) - McGraw (front ?)

including eBay images of two so they are not lost:

[Luke]

Originally Posted by t206hound

Here are the scans... I think it's more valuable as the first graded

Just noticed this one. My Griffith/Chase OM proves that the sheet placement for these two subjects didn't change when they printed different backs.

[Pat R]

A new one, Turner/O'Leary PD 350

[rommesc]

Miller-Orth OMSL can also be added to the list.

[Jantz]

Pat & Chris

Thanks for posting those 2 new two-namers.

Both are interesting, especially since the SLer is a first.


Jantz

[Luke]

Man, I wanted that Turner (not quite enough though I guess). Did anyone on here get it?

[Jantz]

Originally Posted by LukeLyon

Man, I wanted that Turner (not quite enough though I guess). Did anyone on here get it?

Yes

[atx840]

Nice Jantz!

Lake (New York) - Pastorius Piedmont 150 can be added.

[BradH]

Sorry - Scanner is having trouble with the plastic from the TPG holder...Might be time to crack it out.

[t206hound]

I believe this captures the updates (in RED):

American Beauty 350 framed
Hinchman, H. - Taylor

Cycle 350
Beck - Unglaub

El Principe De Gales
Young - Rucker

Old Mill (Baseball Series)
Griffith (port.) - Chase (?)

Old Mill (Southern League)
Miller - Orth

Piedmont 150
Beaumont - Seymour
Bender (port.) - Delehanty (Wash.)
Bergen (bat) - Dooin
Brown, M (port.) - Magee (port.)
Bradley (port.) - Bender (port.)
Hinchman, B. - Stovall (port.)
Johnson (port.) - Schlei (catching)
Killian (pitching) - Chance (red port.)
Lindaman - Bresnahan (port.)
Lundgren (Cubs) - Doolin
Lundgren (Cubs) - Ball (New York)
Manning (batting) - Flick
Pastorius - Lake (NY)
Powell (horizontal) - O'Leary (port.)
Shipke - Griffith
Spade - Cicotte
Walsh - Seymour (batting)

Piedmont 350
Abbaticchio (brown) - Cicotte
Atz - Hoffman (Providence)
Butler - Raymond
Chance (yellow port.) - Feine (?)
Chase (blue port.) - Zimmerman
Chase (White Cap) - Jacklitsch
Delehanty (Wash.) - Waddell (port.)
Egan - Warhop
Elberfeld (NY port.) - Parent
Engle - Phillippe
Ganzel - Downs
Griffith (port.) - Chase (?)
Herzog (NY) - Ritchey
Hoblitzell - Stephens
Hunter - Quinn
Jackson - Hoffman (St. Louis)
Jennings (port.) - Jordan (port.)
Livingstone - Maloney
McElveen - Dygert
McGinley - Speaker
McGraw (no cap port.) - Chesbro
McIntyre (Detroit) - Hoffman (St. Louis)
Moran, H. - Arrellanes
Oakes - Easterly
Rossman - McBride
Shaw - Chappelle
Snodgrass (batting) - Maddox
Turner - Lobert
Turner - O'Leary
Walsh - Brown, M (port.)

Sweet Caporal 350-30
Barbeau - Strang
Graham (St. Louis) - Clark (Columbus)
Killian (port.) - Dubuc
McGlynn - Jones (Detroit)
Rossman - Thomas
Wagner, Heinie (left shoulder) - Schlei (catching)

Sweet Caporal 350-25
Lennox - Clancy

Sweet Caporal - factory number unknown
Bowerman - Chance (front ?)
McGraw (front ?) - Hayden
Pickering - Myers (front )

The rest - back information unknown or damaged
Bresnahan (port.) - Doolin
Criger - Ritchey
Keeler (front ?) - McGraw (front ?)
Walsh - Lumley Piedmont (back damage - no series number)

[xplainer]

I've got one. Hard to get the name on top though. Not much there.
Another Lake, but this is a SC 150/649.

Just thought I'd post it.

[t206hound]

Originally Posted by BradH

Sorry - Scanner is having trouble with the plastic from the TPG holder...Might be time to crack it out.

Originally Posted by xplainer

I've got one. Hard to get the name on top though. Not much there.
Another Lake, but this is a SC 150/649.

Nice cards guys; note that this thread is about two different names on the same card.

[xplainer]

Originally Posted by t206hound

Nice cards guys; note that this thread is about two different names on the same card.

Yeah, I know it is. But, I posted the Lake because I believe there are two different names on the card. The top name is only 1/4 there. By using my other cards, I know it is a N.Y. player, but I don't think it is Lake. The "N. Y." line up perfectly. And the back is not noted in any of the lists, so I thought it warranted posting.

Sorry if I am wrong, but seems like a legit post. If it is Lake top and bottom, I understand. If it is, please show me. Educate me. Fairly new to The Monster.

-Jimmy

[T206Collector]

Originally Posted by xplainer

Yeah, I know it is. But, I posted the Lake because I believe there are two different names on the card. The top name is only 1/4 there. By using my other cards, I know it is a N.Y. player, but I don't think it is Lake. The "N. Y." line up perfectly. And the back is not noted in any of the lists, so I thought it warranted posting.

Sorry if I am wrong, but seems like a legit post. If it is Lake top and bottom, I understand. If it is, please show me. Educate me. Fairly new to The Monster.

-Jimmy

I dig the card, but that is Lake at top and bottom. Still cool tho.

[xplainer]

Originally Posted by T206Collector

I dig the card, but that is Lake at top and bottom. Still cool tho.

Gotcha. I understand now. I couldn't make it out as Lake. Thanks.

[Luke]

Just got this one. I'm 99% sure it's Jordan, Brooklyn (so it would be the portrait). Anyone want to check my work?

[Jantz]

Originally Posted by LukeLyon

Just got this one. I'm 99% sure it's Jordan, Brooklyn (so it would be the portrait). Anyone want to check my work?

Nice card Luke!

Interesting card since the other Jennings/Jordan two-namer has a Piedmont 350 back.

[Luke]

Ah, didn't realize another Jennings/Jordan had already been found. It is indeed a P150.

[t206hound]

I believe this captures the updates (in RED)... all three four are Piedmont 150:

American Beauty 350 framed
Hinchman, H. - Taylor

Cycle 350
Beck - Unglaub

El Principe De Gales
Young - Rucker

Old Mill (Baseball Series)
Griffith (port.) - Chase (?)

Old Mill (Southern League)
Miller - Orth

Piedmont 150
Beaumont - Seymour
Bender (port.) - Delehanty (Wash.)
Bergen (bat) - Dooin
Brown, M (port.) - Magee (port.)
Bradley (port.) - Bender (port.)
Devlin - Schulte (front view)
Hinchman, B. - Stovall (port.)
Jennings (port.) - Jordan (port.)
Johnson (port.) - Schlei (catching)
Konetchy - Jennings (port.)
Killian (pitching) - Chance (red port.)
Lindaman - Bresnahan (port.)
Lundgren (Cubs) - Doolin
Lundgren (Cubs) - Ball (New York)
Manning (batting) - Flick
Pastorius - Lake (NY, throw)
Powell (horizontal) - O'Leary (port.)
Shipke - Griffith
Spade - Cicotte
Walsh - Seymour (batting)

Piedmont 350
Abbaticchio (brown) - Cicotte
Atz - Hoffman (Providence)
Butler - Raymond
Chance (yellow port.) - Feine (?)
Chase (blue port.) - Zimmerman
Chase (White Cap) - Jacklitsch
Delehanty (Wash.) - Waddell (port.)
Egan - Warhop
Elberfeld (NY port.) - Parent
Engle - Phillippe
Ganzel - Downs
Griffith (port.) - Chase (?)
Herzog (NY) - Ritchey
Hoblitzell - Stephens
Hunter - Quinn
Jackson - Hoffman (St. Louis)
Jennings (port.) - Jordan (port.)
Livingstone - Maloney
McElveen - Dygert
McGinley - Speaker
McGraw (no cap port.) - Chesbro
McIntyre (Detroit) - Hoffman (St. Louis)
Moran, H. - Arrellanes
Oakes - Easterly
Rossman - McBride
Shaw - Chappelle
Snodgrass (batting) - Maddox
Turner - Lobert
Turner - O'Leary
Walsh - Brown, M (port.)

Sweet Caporal 350-30
Barbeau - Strang
Graham (St. Louis) - Clark (Columbus)
Killian (port.) - Dubuc
McGlynn - Jones (Detroit)
Rossman - Thomas
Wagner, Heinie (left shoulder) - Schlei (catching)

Sweet Caporal 350-25
Lennox - Clancy

Sweet Caporal - factory number unknown
Bowerman - Chance (front ?)
McGraw (front ?) - Hayden
Pickering - Myers (front )

The rest - back information unknown or damaged
Bresnahan (port.) - Doolin
Criger - Ritchey
Keeler (front ?) - McGraw (front ?)
Walsh - Lumley Piedmont (back damage - no series number)

[brianp-beme]

Erick, this was the listing that I was searching for. Keep up the good work!

Brian

[t206hound]

not mine... Sweet Caporal 350 Factory 30 back

[t206hound]

Wasn't expecting to find this beauty in a lot of 16 that I won... but on close inspection I saw it was a two namer: Schmidt-Sweeney

Sweet Caporal 350 Factory 30

[t206hound]

I believe this captures the updates (in RED)... both are SC350 f30:

American Beauty 350 framed
Hinchman, H. - Taylor

Cycle 350
Beck - Unglaub

El Principe De Gales
Young - Rucker

Old Mill (Baseball Series)
Griffith (port.) - Chase (?)

Old Mill (Southern League)
Miller - Orth

Piedmont 150
Beaumont - Seymour
Bender (port.) - Delehanty (Wash.)
Bergen (bat) - Dooin
Brown, M (port.) - Magee (port.)
Bradley (port.) - Bender (port.)
Devlin - Schulte (front view)
Hinchman, B. - Stovall (port.)
Jennings (port.) - Jordan (port.)
Johnson (port.) - Schlei (catching)
Konetchy - Jennings (port.)
Killian (pitching) - Chance (red port.)
Lindaman - Bresnahan (port.)
Lundgren (Cubs) - Doolin
Lundgren (Cubs) - Ball (New York)
Manning (batting) - Flick
Pastorius - Lake (NY, throw)
Powell (horizontal) - O'Leary (port.)
Shipke - Griffith
Spade - Cicotte
Walsh - Seymour (batting)

Piedmont 350
Abbaticchio (brown) - Cicotte
Atz - Hoffman (Providence)
Butler - Raymond
Chance (yellow port.) - Feine (?)
Chase (blue port.) - Zimmerman
Chase (White Cap) - Jacklitsch
Delehanty (Wash.) - Waddell (port.)
Egan - Warhop
Elberfeld (NY port.) - Parent
Engle - Phillippe
Ganzel - Downs
Griffith (port.) - Chase (?)
Herzog (NY) - Ritchey
Hoblitzell - Stephens
Hunter - Quinn
Jackson - Hoffman (St. Louis)
Jennings (port.) - Jordan (port.)
Livingstone - Maloney
McElveen - Dygert
McGinley - Speaker
McGraw (no cap port.) - Chesbro
McIntyre (Detroit) - Hoffman (St. Louis)
Moran, H. - Arrellanes
Oakes - Easterly
Rossman - McBride
Shaw - Chappelle
Snodgrass (batting) - Maddox
Turner - Lobert
Turner - O'Leary
Walsh - Brown, M (port.)

Sweet Caporal 350-25
Lennox - Clancy

Sweet Caporal 350-30
Barbeau - Strang
Graham (St. Louis) - Clark (Columbus)
Graham (Boston) - Burns
Killian (port.) - Dubuc
McGlynn - Jones (Detroit)
Rossman - Thomas
Schmidt (Portrait) - Sweeney (Bill)
Wagner, Heinie (left shoulder) - Schlei (catching)

Sweet Caporal - factory number unknown
Bowerman - Chance (front ?)
McGraw (front ?) - Hayden
Pickering - Myers (front )

The rest - back information unknown or damaged
Bresnahan (port.) - Doolin
Criger - Ritchey
Keeler (front ?) - McGraw (front ?)
Walsh - Lumley Piedmont (back damage - no series number)

[Thromdog]

Looks like Miller with Orth in the top but the back is a Piedmont....graded PSA 4(Mc)

[Millerd33]

Buddy of mine just got this one today. It does not appear on the known list in this thread.
Boss Schmidt Piedmont 350 with what I'm pretty sure it's Charlie Starr as the top name.

Sadly I don't know how to do images on forums. If someone would like to Email me at Millerd33@yahoo.com or PM on Facebook at https://www.facebook.com/millerd33 I can send you the image to post here.

[chalupacollects]

I have one from Hannifan, Jersey City with half the name on top and bottom. Its a Sovereign 350... I can scan if anyone wants to see it....

[mrvster]

post it!!!

in memory of Jantz

great to see his thread still alive....I miss this dude

[chalupacollects]

ok in memory of Jantz!

Is this combo with the back rare? didn't see any with this back on the masterlist in previous pages...

[Luke]

Hannifan is pretty common with the same name on top. Sweet card though! This thread is mainly meant for card that have two different names on top and bottom.

Here is Chad's Schmidt/Starr

edit: Sorry it's so small. You'll have to take my word for it that Starr is on top

[mrvster]

great to see you post in memory of Jantz

sov hannifan is a tufer front/back combo tho......the fact 25's are rarer in the SWEET CAPORAL BACKS....

but your hannifan is definitely a keeper

Luke!

great stuff

[ahumes13]

Here's a new one, Dahlen/Wagner ... too bad it's not THAT Wagner!

Scan isn't great, but it's definitely WAGNER, BOSTON AMER. Piedmont 150

[T206.org]

Here's a Cree / Marquard Portrait Piedmont 350 (found on eBay):

[Santo10Fan]

This from one of the Hall auctions I got last summer.

[frankbmd]

Originally Posted by atx840

TAYLOR looks good to me, nice find.

Originally Posted by Jantz

I agree with you Frank.

I believe its Taylor also.

Nice card & thanks for posting it!


Jantz

It's been eight years and I am not following this anomaly that closely.

Is this Hinchman/Taylor combo still the "only" American Beauty found with two names?

If so, I feel like a "Hobby Hero"

[Luke]

It's the only one I'm aware of Frank. And you were already a hobby hero

Saw a new one today. Marquard-Cree. Back is P350.

[brianp-beme]

The image of this card never made it to this thread 5+ years ago (it was the subject of its own thread back then), so it's about time that it appear here.

Piedmont 150 Konetchy whipped cream in glove with a cherry Jennings portrait on top.

Brian

[Pat R]

A new one picked up from a member Rucker-young Piedmont 150 no way to tell yet if it's Young bare hand or portrait.
Interesting that there is an EPDG Young portrait with Rucker on top and on the Wagner strip Rucker is next to Young portrait.


Updated list with the most recent updates in blue.

American Beauty 350 framed
Hinchman, H. - Taylor

Cycle 350
Beck - Unglaub

El Principe De Gales
Young - Rucker

Old Mill (Baseball Series)
Griffith (port.) - Chase (?)

Old Mill (Southern League)
Miller - Orth

Piedmont 150
Beaumont - Seymour
Bender (port.) - Delehanty (Wash.)
Bergen (bat) - Dooin
Brown, M (port.) - Magee (port.)
Bradley (port.) - Bender (port.)
Dahlen (Boston) - Wagner (Boston)
Devlin - Schulte (front view)
Hinchman, B. - Stovall (port.)
Jennings (port.) - Jordan (port.)
Johnson (port.) - Schlei (catching)
Joss (port) - Criss
Konetchy - Jennings (port.)
Killian (pitching) - Chance (red port.)
Lindaman - Bresnahan (port.)
Lundgren (Cubs) - Doolin
Lundgren (Cubs) - Ball (New York)
Manning (batting) - Flick
Pastorius - Lake (NY, throw)
Powell (horizontal) - O'Leary (port.)
Rucker - Young?
Shipke - Griffith
Spade - Cicotte
Walsh - Seymour (batting)

Piedmont 350
Abbaticchio (brown) - Cicotte
Atz - Hoffman (Providence)
Butler - Raymond
Chance (yellow port.) - Feine (?)
Chase (blue port.) - Zimmerman
Chase (White Cap) - Jacklitsch
Delehanty (Wash.) - Waddell (port.)
Egan - Warhop
Elberfeld (NY port.) - Parent
Engle - Phillippe
Ganzel - Downs
Griffith (port.) - Chase (?)
Herzog (NY) - Ritchey
Hoblitzell - Stephens
Hunter - Quinn
Jackson - Hoffman (St. Louis)
Jennings (port.) - Jordan (port.)
Livingstone - Maloney
Marquard (port) - Cree
McElveen - Dygert
McGinley - Speaker
McGraw (no cap port.) - Chesbro
McIntyre (Detroit) - Hoffman (St. Louis)
Moran, H. - Arrellanes
Oakes - Easterly
Rossman - McBride
Schmidt - Starr
Shaw - Chappelle
Snodgrass (batting) - Maddox
Turner - Lobert
Turner - O'Leary
Walsh - Brown, M (port.)

Sweet Caporal 350-25
Lennox - Clancy

Sweet Caporal 350-30
Barbeau - Strang
Graham (St. Louis) - Clark (Columbus)
Graham (Boston) - Burns
Killian (port.) - Dubuc
McGlynn - Jones (Detroit)
Rossman - Thomas
Schmidt (Portrait) - Sweeney (Bill)
Wagner, Heinie (left shoulder) - Schlei (catching)

Sweet Caporal - factory number unknown
Bowerman - Chance (front ?)
McGraw (front ?) - Hayden
Pickering - Myers (front )

The rest - back information unknown or damaged
Bresnahan (port.) - Doolin
Criger - Ritchey
Keeler (front ?) - McGraw (front ?)
Walsh - Lumley Piedmont (back damage - no series number)[/QUOTE]

[Pat R]

Here's the Rucker - Young

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[oldeboo]

For those still keeping tally, saw this one surface over the weekend that I don't believe has been recorded...

Joss-Criss (say that ten times fast)
Piedmont 150

[Pat R]

Thanks Trey I added it to the list.

[Bbailey706]

Just picked up this Powell with O'Leary. Screenshot_20210606-212848_eBay.jpg20210613_134315.jpg

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[mybuddyinc]

Boy oh Boy (as Grandpa Gross used to say ) ---- What a FUN old thread. A pleasurable walk down memory lane ...............

Here's another EPDG -- Stovall, port. // Lajoie, throw (based on availability and series).

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.............. and an old AB -- Congalton // Rhodes:

https://www.net54baseball.com/showthread.php?t=282179


Fun, fun, Scott