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Rough cuts and grading standards
I'm sure it's been discussed before, and please excuse the choice of card, but it has me wondering if being lenient about rough cut edges from the factory also makes graders lenient with grading the corners. I’ve still never understood why being off-center, which is clearly a factory issue, counts against a card but having rough edges, which is possibly a factory issue, does not. But this is a separate issue. This particular card received a 5. Are they assuming the corner damage is just a product of a rough cut? Is that standard? Is it even possible to do it otherwise without arbitrarily designating one spot as the place where the edge ends and the corner begins?
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I think they just missed it, or maybe the corner got dinged after they graded it. I think grading is okay for Topps cards, for stuff I collect like n172, T213, etc, I'd just as soon have the card in a cardsaver or toploader.
When I first sent cards off for grading 20 or more years ago, I thought I was sending cards to be examined by someone like DR Cycleback in a lab at MIT. I realized quickly that it was more likely a fry cook working a 2nd job as a card grader.
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Around a year ago I had a Cam Neely OPC RC in a PSA 10 that had a moderately jagged left edge. I thought it was ridiculous that it was a 10 and sold the card and now it's worth 5x what it was then.
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The fact that a rough cut isn't punished but off-center is heavily punished shows you just how arbitrary and senseless "professional" grading is. Both are factory traits, and should be treated similarly.
Take their assigned number with a grain of salt. There's very little consistency, and the people grading them devote about as much time as Lucy and Ethel spent on each piece of chocolate on the conveyor belt. That said, it varies from grader to grader and day to day. But rough-cut corners do tend to get favorable treatment and garner more forgiveness than straight-cut edges... the "affirmative action" of trading cards, if you will. |
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I don't agree that penalizing centering and not cut is arbitrary. If a factory uses a wire to cut cards, it is not avoidable, it's just how they did it at the time. Centering, on the other hand, is a characteristic distributed randomly. They were not able to precisely measure all the time, and sometimes it worked well, other times not. Cards should certainly be penalized for bad centering.
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I agree with you, that cards should be penalized for bad centering. But seems like there is far more random leniency and forgiveness with regard to severe rough cuts. |
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O-Pee-Chee did not use a wire to cut their sheets.
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From everything I have read on O-pee-chee focused collector sites, they did wire cut. Perhaps this is a myth similar to the 'first print' blue line? Please educate us and as to how you know this to be the case
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I've spoken to a few guys who worked at the O-Pee-Chee plant in London back in the day, and again, there was no wire. They had different machines in there that were made around the 1950s. Some of the machines cut two strips of cards at a time and one machine cut one strip at a time. The machine that was cutting one strip at a time produced the cleanest cuts.
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its possible the TPG just feels that OPC cards all have that bad edge and most of them due , not sure why thats ok and not the other issues .
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You’re looking at an older slab. I am not even sure if this card would get the same grade today.
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