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T215 Pirates group in Mastro Live Auction
Posted By: leon
From our friends at SGC: |
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T215 Pirates group in Mastro Live Auction
Posted By: Joe Pelaez
Do we call Leon's office, SGC or Mastro's office??? |
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T215 Pirates group in Mastro Live Auction
Posted By: Rob Dewolf
Maybe the statement was issued by a group of Cubans living in Alaska, Joe. |
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T215 Pirates group in Mastro Live Auction
Posted By: leon
If you can read maybe you should read this at the end of the statement... |
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T215 Pirates group in Mastro Live Auction
Posted By: Zinn
Most of us get it but had you put "...." around the statement it would have been absolutely clear from where it originated. |
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T215 Pirates group in Mastro Live Auction
Posted By: Joe Pelaez
Maybe it's a connection to Global warming, and cardboard Meltdown? |
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T215 Pirates group in Mastro Live Auction
Posted By: James Feagin
Count me suspicious about the T215 Pirates unless some legit provenance pops up. I don't care what SGC says, unless these came from some unknown overseas horde, I would stay away from this if I had that kind of $$$ (which I probably never will). By the way, why the heck are they called T215's anyway? Isn't that Red Crosses designation? |
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T215 Pirates group in Mastro Live Auction
Posted By: Josh
How many total of these Pirate backs are there in circulation, aka what's the pop report on these cards? |
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T215 Pirates group in Mastro Live Auction
Posted By: Joe Pelaez
And I would go as far as saying, that if you thought about it ... you would also be able to tell us the reason why. |
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T215 Pirates group in Mastro Live Auction
Posted By: Bob
Is the Mastro auction at National limited only to invitees only or can anyone bid there? |
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T215 Pirates group in Mastro Live Auction
Posted By: Josh
Joe, |
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T215 Pirates group in Mastro Live Auction
Posted By: Scott Mosley
Although the information is still pretty sparse on the Live Auction, Mastro does have a "live preview" link up on their website with some of the items that will be available. |
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T215 Pirates group in Mastro Live Auction
Posted By: Cobby33
There are only 3 on PSA's pop. report. Aside from this new horde, I don't think SGC ever graded any. |
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T215 Pirates group in Mastro Live Auction
Posted By: Josh
Thanks Cobby! |
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T215 Pirates group in Mastro Live Auction
Posted By: Jeff Lichtman
So now we're suspicious about SGC's ability to spot a hand-cut card? Don't you guys think that SGC was especially careful with this group of cards considering their significance to the hobby? |
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T215 Pirates group in Mastro Live Auction
Posted By: Joe Pelaez
Joe, |
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T215 Pirates group in Mastro Live Auction
Posted By: Jason L
I'm working on another "find" in my basement right now! |
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T215 Pirates group in Mastro Live Auction
Posted By: leon
I hear the FBI is investigating their grading.....I read it in the newspaper....it has to be true.... |
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T215 Pirates group in Mastro Live Auction
Posted By: Josh
Jason, |
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T215 Pirates group in Mastro Live Auction
Posted By: Jeff Lichtman
Leon, you couldn't have read it in a newspaper. You just think you read it. I don't see a copy of the newspaper article. I think it's imaginary. Did you actually read it or did you dream you read it? You'll need to post it here. With the date showing. And a picture of you holding a sheet of paper saying "I'm Leon and I pee in my back yard when I'm not lighting myself on fire in my front yard" next to it. |
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T215 Pirates group in Mastro Live Auction
Posted By: Al C.risafulli
Jeff changed his avatar and now I'm all freaked out. It's like walking into my office and having the furniture be all rearranged. |
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T215 Pirates group in Mastro Live Auction
Posted By: leon
The allegation was reprinted from a year ago.....so it has to be absolutely, unequivocally true today.... |
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T215 Pirates group in Mastro Live Auction
Posted By: Cat
Just curious.... Is there an over/under on this lot? Real expensive? |
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T215 Pirates group in Mastro Live Auction
Posted By: Jeff Lichtman
Al, I think you may be seeing things. |
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T215 Pirates group in Mastro Live Auction
Posted By: Zinn
I think 90K would be an absolute bargain. But that's just me. |
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T215 Pirates group in Mastro Live Auction
Posted By: barrysloate
I'll guess 300K-400K. |
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T215 Pirates group in Mastro Live Auction
Posted By: Mark M
I wonder if Pirates should even have an ACC designation since they was produced by an English tobacco company. None of that issuer's boxing cards has an ACC designation. I know the images are the same as Red Cross and they may have been distributed to U.S. military persons oversees, but these were not sold in the U.S. or issued by a U.S. company. |
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T215 Pirates group in Mastro Live Auction
Posted By: robert a
I wouldn't care if they were hand cut or not. |
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T215 Pirates group in Mastro Live Auction
Posted By: Kevin Saucier
My understanding...and please correct me if I am wrong: |
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T215 Pirates group in Mastro Live Auction
Posted By: Jason L
Yup! |
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T215 Pirates group in Mastro Live Auction
Posted By: leon
I am sure you are saying the FBI think as tongue in cheek? It's hard to tell behind a keyboard, sometimes. I was joking of course. As for these being factory cut....I trust SGC..... |
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T215 Pirates group in Mastro Live Auction
Posted By: T206Collector
They were sent to SGC and graded because they were deemed factory cut under the standards explained in their very enlightening articles on how to detect trimmed T205 and T206 cards. It's not that they deemed them factory cut because they wrote an article saying they were factory cut, as your post suggests. |
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T215 Pirates group in Mastro Live Auction
Posted By: JimB
"My understanding...and please correct me if I am wrong: |
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T215 Pirates group in Mastro Live Auction
Posted By: Kevin Saucier
Wasn't trying to spread fear. |
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T215 Pirates group in Mastro Live Auction
Posted By: Tom Boblitt
Good chance on the next doorprize..........what the Pirates will go for....... |
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T215 Pirates group in Mastro Live Auction
Posted By: Paul
The auction houses often publicize the origins of a rare item. Has Mastro done so here? I would be interested to know how one collector long ago was able to essentially monopolize this set. He had more than 90 and no one else had more than one. |
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T215 Pirates group in Mastro Live Auction
Posted By: Anthony
Didn't one collector monopolize the Alpha Engraving set? And the Allegheny set? Tough to do, but it certainly seems possible. |
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T215 Pirates group in Mastro Live Auction
Posted By: Richard Masson
Card collecting is very well established in the UK. They make us look like rank amateurs. |
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T215 Pirates group in Mastro Live Auction
Posted By: Kevin Saucier
I dunno...just something seems odd about the whole thing. Just can't put my finger on it. |
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T215 Pirates group in Mastro Live Auction
Posted By: JimB
Has anybody else noticed the tendancy on this board for people to bash the cards they don't have from the Gretzky Wagner to the T206 Cobb/Cobb back, T206 Doyle, virtually all high grade vintage cards, and now these Pirates? Maybe a little honest self-reflection is in order. |
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T215 Pirates group in Mastro Live Auction
Posted By: Al C.risafulli
Unbiased? |
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T215 Pirates group in Mastro Live Auction
Posted By: barrysloate
Jim- in all fairness, since I was the one who started the thread that questioned whether the Cobb with Cobb back was truly a T206, were we bashing it or simply saying there is a reasonable chance that it has been improperly attributed? It seemed like an intelligent discussion with no bashing at all. |
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T215 Pirates group in Mastro Live Auction
Posted By: Jeff Lichtman
Jim, I honestly do not know what you are talking about. |
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T215 Pirates group in Mastro Live Auction
Posted By: Kevin Saucier
Main Entry: un·bi·ased |
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T215 Pirates group in Mastro Live Auction
Posted By: Al C.risafulli
Oh. Okay. |
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T215 Pirates group in Mastro Live Auction
Posted By: Charlie Barokas
"My understanding...and please correct me if I am wrong: |
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T215 Pirates group in Mastro Live Auction
Posted By: JimB
Barry, |
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T215 Pirates group in Mastro Live Auction
Posted By: Anonymous
Does anyone know if Edgar W-T had any Pirate backed baseball cards in his collection? |
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T215 Pirates group in Mastro Live Auction
Posted By: barrysloate
This won't reach 300 posts- 250 tops! |
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T215 Pirates group in Mastro Live Auction
Posted By: Paul
Just to be clear, I wasn't bashing. I just think it would be interesting to hear how this group was put together. |
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