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Posted By: cmoking
Does GAI do a good job of finding trimmed or otherwise altered cards? Has anyone cracked a GAI card and sent it to SGC or PSA only to have it returned as altered, fake or trimmed? I know the GAI guys were the old PSA guys, but because the prices of their cards are generally lower, it makes me wonder about that or maybe GAI cards are just bargains...or maybe they grade too high. For this specific question, I'm not concerned about their grading (or overgrading), but concerned about their ability to detect a fake, an altered card or a trimmed card as compared to SGC/PSA. |
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Posted By: cmoking
Specifically, I'm wondering about the 33 Goudey Lajoie in the Goodwin auction, which is a GAI 6.5 |
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Posted By: Anson
The card looks ok to me. Sometimes GAI stuff appears trimmed because the design of their inner holders that secure the card in place. I haven't had any issues with GAI but I'm sure they have made a few mistakes like the others. |
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Posted By: davidcycleback
Concerning authenticity, I doubt they'd have trouble identifying a counterfeit Lajoie. I'm sure their top guys have handled thousands of Goudeys. |
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Posted By: Dan Koteles
the holders are somewhat ugly,but... I find that these guys are very tough. |
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Posted By: Mark Holt
I just cracked 2 GAI cards and sent to PSA. Both were labeled '1st graded' by GAI (which really doesn't give a feeling of confidence). One was a t206 Ryan (Roanoke) and the other a Hamilton Gum Hockey card. I'm looking forward to see how they cross. |
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Posted By: jackgoodman
First graded simply means the first specific card graded at that grade by GAI. They may have graded many others at higher or lower grades. In other words, the first t206 Cobb redback they grade at a "5" gets the "first graded" designation. The next T206 Cobb redback graded a "5" doesn't get any special designation. |
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Posted By: cmoking
I thought a PSA 6 would sell for more than a GAI 6.5, maybe others disagree. |
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Posted By: Lee Behrens
I recently cracked a card out of a GAI holder, it was very easy and could be put back together without much show of being cracked. Easiest holder I ever cracked. |
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Posted By: scott ingold
I just cracked 5 GAI's and found them tough. The plastic shattered and flew all over. Whereas PSA's i can get open in one piece and have very little damage to either side. Guess it all depends. Same for the SGC case, the damn plastic shatter's all over. |
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Posted By: Mark Holt
At the risk of antagonizing Adan J. M. both my GAI's were 2.5s. Low grade, but I like em. |
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Posted By: tbob
Personally I have no problem with GAI. I think they are pretty consistent in their grading and will graded cards as "authentic" which might have a slight trim or color touch, thus the card can have a nice presentation in its holder. The only problem I have ever had with GAI (other than losing my 25 E98s after grading when UPS deep 6'd them) is the "floating" issue. This has been discussed before and I didn't have any floaters this time around with cards I graded at National. I know that SGC vintage cards probably go for more but if you truly buy the card for the card itself, GAI is an acceptable option. |
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Posted By: cmoking
what do you mean by floating? Is that when the card is easily moved within the holder? |
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Posted By: tbob
Floating in its worst form means the card gets outside of the parameters of the black "framing" holder and floats around the inside of the slab. Very frustrating. |
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Posted By: PHISHERMAN
I have had tobacco cards that I cracked out of an SGC holder and submitted to gai that came back as trimmed, so I don't quite understand everyones faith in SGC. They also largely discount centering when grading and that is inexcusable. |
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Posted By: Larry
As far as service goes, GAI is the best company you can deal with..They truly care what collectors and dealers say, all three major services have their pluses and minuses but GAI is the best at being courteous to the customer no matter how much they spend. |
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