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[Lorewalker]

Originally Posted by rats60

There is a PSA 9 in Heritage that I expect to set a new record for Jackie Robinson Rcs. Jackie Robinson, along with Clemente and Mantle, are the best investments in the post war vintage markets and their cards are the bellwether for the hobby.

Is there a Bond Bread Roby Port PSA 9 in that auction? I saw a Leaf Roby 9 in Heritage however that is not his rookie since it is a 1949 issue.

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[rats60]

Originally Posted by Lorewalker

Is there a Bond Bread Roby Port PSA 9 in that auction? I saw a Leaf Roby 9 in Heritage however that is not his rookie since it is a 1949 issue.

It is already at 156k. Seems like the hobby thinks it is his rookie card. 1st national issue, check. I guess most still prefer a nationally issued mainstream card to a regional.

[CharleyBrown]

Originally Posted by rats60

It is already at 156k. Seems like the hobby thinks it is his rookie card. 1st national issue, check. I guess most still prefer a nationally issued mainstream card to a regional.

We've been down this road with the regional vs. national comparison, and I'm not sure why you continue to classify the BB card as a regional?

Anyhow, you're comparing a PSA 9 to a PSA 6. A PSA 9 BB Portrait does not exist. There are 3 PSA 8s which would surely produce eye-popping numbers should they come up for sale.

In comparing a PSA 6 Leaf vs. PSA 6 BB, the numbers are a lot closer, and the BB outperformed recent Leaf sales.

PSA 6 Bond Bread = $14,400

Last 5 PSA 6 Leaf sales = $9,300; $9,485; $11,400; $10,300; $9,600. A PSA 6 Leaf with excellent centering did sell for $16,156.00 about 13-14 months ago.

[rats60]

Originally Posted by CharleyBrown

We've been down this road with the regional vs. national comparison, and I'm not sure why you continue to classify the BB card as a regional?

Anyhow, you're comparing a PSA 9 to a PSA 6. A PSA 9 BB Portrait does not exist. There are 3 PSA 8s which would surely produce eye-popping numbers should they come up for sale.

In comparing a PSA 6 Leaf vs. PSA 6 BB, the numbers are a lot closer, and the BB outperformed recent Leaf sales.

PSA 6 Bond Bread = $14,400

Last 5 PSA 6 Leaf sales = $9,300; $9,485; $11,400; $10,300; $9,600. A PSA 6 Leaf with excellent centering did sell for $16,156.00 about 13-14 months ago.

There is also 126 Leaf to 15 Regionals in 6. So with more than 8 times the population, the Leaf RC still sells for more than the regional. BBs sold for 6100 and 5900 this year too, but REA always gets a premium, sometimes a ridiculous one.

[RedsFan1941]

Originally Posted by rats60

There is also 126 Leaf to 15 Regionals in 6. So with more than 8 times the population, the Leaf RC still sells for more than the regional. BBs sold for 6100 and 5900 this year too, but REA always gets a premium, sometimes a ridiculous one.

that's cute how you keep calling it a regional even when you know that it's not.

[ejharrington]

Originally Posted by RedsFan1941

that's cute how you keep calling it a regional even when you know that it's not.

Regional or not the BB are his rookie cards. The Leaf is more popular but not his rookie card

[RedsFan1941]

i never said otherwise.

[griffon512]

Originally Posted by ejharrington

Regional or not the BB are his rookie cards. The Leaf is more popular but not his rookie card

Included in this rookie card status should be Jackie's Homogenized Bond Bread, not just the Bond Bread Portrait. Both were issued in 1947 (see long thread from Ted Zanidakis where he recalls collecting Homogenized Bond Bread cards in 1947). SGC correctly identifies the Homogenized Bond Bread card as being distributed in 1947. As Shaun and Joe point out, Bond Bread was not a regional issue by any reasonable definition of the term, but we're getting into semantics. There is no threshold between local, regional, and national distribution.

Even if a card was only distributed in limited locations during a rookie year, whose to say that it's not a rookie year card?

Let's keep it simple: if a card was distributed in the player's first year, it's a rookie year card, regardless of the size of the issue (lou gehrig 1925 exhibit is an oversized issue but that shouldn't mean it's not his rookie year card) or how many locations it was distributed in.

[CharleyBrown]

Originally Posted by rats60

There is also 126 Leaf to 15 Regionals in 6. So with more than 8 times the population, the Leaf RC still sells for more than the regional. BBs sold for 6100 and 5900 this year too, but REA always gets a premium, sometimes a ridiculous one.

What region encompasses NY, Detroit, Chicago, Baltimore, DC, Montreal, Philadelphia, etc.?

$14400 > $9300

Yes... REA does get a premium... so let's compare sales from this particular REA auction.

Bond Bread PSA 4 sold for $5100.
Leaf PSA 5 sold for $4800.

$5100 > $4800

Nobody is taking anything away from the Leaf issue. It is easily one of Jackie's most iconic issues. I am glad to have one in my collection.

That being said, the BB issue has experienced a meteoric rise this year, similar to what the market recently saw with other iconic cards. This makes it hard to go by the previous sales of $6100 and $5900 (which were also big jumps). It has been on a continuously upward trajectory, whether you want to admit that or not.

[Vintageclout]

Originally Posted by charleybrown

we've been down this road with the regional vs. National comparison, and i'm not sure why you continue to classify the bb card as a regional?

Anyhow, you're comparing a psa 9 to a psa 6. A psa 9 bb portrait does not exist. There are 3 psa 8s which would surely produce eye-popping numbers should they come up for sale.

In comparing a psa 6 leaf vs. Psa 6 bb, the numbers are a lot closer, and the bb outperformed recent leaf sales.

Psa 6 bond bread = $14,400

last 5 psa 6 leaf sales = $9,300; $9,485; $11,400; $10,300; $9,600. A psa 6 leaf with excellent centering did sell for $16,156.00 about 13-14 months ago.

+1,000!!!!

[Vintageclout]

Originally Posted by rats60

It is already at 156k. Seems like the hobby thinks it is his rookie card. 1st national issue, check. I guess most still prefer a nationally issued mainstream card to a regional.

13+ major cities including NY, Chicago, Philadelphia, Atlanta, Baltimore, etc, is hardly a “Regional” Issue. The 47 Bond Bread portrait IS his true rookie.