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Old 12-13-2015, 06:07 PM
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Several of these 1972 Venezuelan cards, including commons, have been counterfeited in the last few years and sold either unwittingly or unscrupulously on eBay by a seller in Venezuela. As far as I can tell all of yours are the real deal, though. Amazing.
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Old 12-13-2015, 06:43 PM
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pm sent. amazing find!
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Old 12-13-2015, 07:15 PM
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Several of these 1972 Venezuelan cards, including commons, have been counterfeited in the last few years and sold either unwittingly or unscrupulously on eBay by a seller in Venezuela. As far as I can tell all of yours are the real deal, though. Amazing.
Hi Cliff, thanks for the info. These were sent to my father in 1978 by another collector. I found the album in an envelope with a letter the other collector wrote regarding a trade they were making, presumably for TCMA items and publications.
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The album that these are glued onto was obviously made for this set with the blank spot for #87 Jose Cardenal. Is there a cover or a front page for the album?
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Would you mind posting or sending me a scan of the Garvey close up? As close as you can get it w/o affecting the quality of the image? thanks.
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Old 12-14-2015, 07:26 AM
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The album that these are glued onto was obviously made for this set with the blank spot for #87 Jose Cardenal. Is there a cover or a front page for the album?
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Old 12-15-2015, 12:43 AM
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The album itself looks legit, but the cards look like the counterfeits. The bright white borders look too bright white, and the pictures are too blurred to see if the font matches the authentic font.

If you look at these under a loupe, if the green backgrounds are all printed in half tone (tiny dots), they are fake. The authentic cards are printed with flat layers of yellow and blue to create the green. The real ones also do not have perfectly square edges to the green background. These appear to be all squared up on the album examples.

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Default Josh - is it possible?

There has been some speculation in past discussion about the possibility of 2 different printings vs. counterfeiting. I saw also in the scans 2 distinct printing styles/fonts, etc. All pasted in the original album, including commons? I think at the very least it begs further inspection and question.

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Old 12-15-2015, 07:36 AM
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There has been some speculation in past discussion about the possibility of 2 different printings vs. counterfeiting. I saw also in the scans 2 distinct printing styles/fonts, etc. All pasted in the original album, including commons? I think at the very least it begs further inspection and question.

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There are two different fonts because all of the "En Accion" stickers have the smaller font. Other than that all of the regular player stickers have the standard bold font.

I have heard about the counterfeits but apparently those were done recently, within the past few years. This book has been sitting in filing cabinet with the original letter of provenance, since 1978.
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The album itself looks legit, but the cards look like the counterfeits. The bright white borders look too bright white as well as the font not matching the authentic font.
They look the same as this Ryan:

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A close up from the album:

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Auction for the album is now live!! Happy bidding

http://bid.robertedwardauctions.com/...e?itemid=40158
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Auction for the album is now live!! Happy bidding

http://bid.robertedwardauctions.com/...e?itemid=40158
Digging up an oldie. Final price under $1,700. Someone got a great price. Anyone on here win the album?
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