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Old 09-09-2021, 09:37 PM
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The thread just keeps getting more interesting, especially on the topic of the Banks RC.
The L/R centering on the card is of course famously tough, but I'd never really noticed how the playing image encroaches into the right border until it was mentioned above.
It's really easy to lose your bearings on the white background '54's.

Someone else on this thread is about to get my spare PSA 6 Banks, which is 50/50 centered left to right. I wasn't really sure why I was ok downgrading the L/R centering on this recent 7 pickup, but I'm looking at it with new eyes now from the comments above. This one's getting re-holdered as we speak. Great discussion!

And a couple of great Mays cards above! -- one of my favorite Mays issues.

Awesome card! I think there is no right answer for the 54 Banks. I think whatever you think looks great is the right answer for you, and whatever the grading companies think be damned. That said, I would love to know how they determine the centering scale for this card.


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Old 09-09-2021, 10:27 PM
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To me it looks like almost every Banks Rookie no matter which way it is centered has the very top of the letters of BANKS cut off.... you can notice especially on the S. The only one Ive seen on here that doesnt qualify for that is the giant one that Stan posted above. Its more of a printing problem then a centering issue for this..... what say the rest of you? I dont see this on other random Topps 1954s but I havent checked intensively yet.....
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Old 09-10-2021, 05:04 AM
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To me it looks like almost every Banks Rookie no matter which way it is centered has the very top of the letters of BANKS cut off.... you can notice especially on the S. The only one Ive seen on here that doesnt qualify for that is the giant one that Stan posted above. Its more of a printing problem then a centering issue for this..... what say the rest of you? I dont see this on other random Topps 1954s but I havent checked intensively yet.....
Good catch. I see it in all of the round top letters (R and B as well). I have no idea what to make of that. I would have said it’s the font but as you said, I don’t see it in Sam’s posted above.
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Old 10-11-2021, 12:34 PM
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I have some new entrants to consider!

I recently received this one from ZiggerZagger:

1954_Banks_1 by boosandpearl, on Flickr

and bought this one off ebay

1954_Banks2_1 by boosandpearl, on Flickr

I think both have strong centering, with the more recent one being a bit better. I plan to only keep one and would love to hear thoughts from the seasoned vets on the board.
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Old 10-11-2021, 06:53 PM
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Default Banks centering...what I look for

There are a few ways to ensure a properly centered Banks IMO.
1) Check the bottom boarder, this should align with the right and left boarders.
2) The cubs logo should be an equal distance from the right boarder as the bottom right boarder. This ensures a 90 degree straight cut card.
3) Top/Bottom centering- The bottom boarder should be equal to the space above Ernie’s name.
Also, the cubs logo should have an equal amount of boarder on the top and the right side, another check for a properly cut card. Another consideration is that the right edge of the cubs logo should be parallel to the right boarder.
4) Ernie Banks name is often cut off at the top of the card, this is a result of poor printing, not reflective of the card being miscut or off center. In general since it’s a common printing issue most folks ignore it.
5) The black and white image shouldn’t be factored into the centering as it’s a secondary image layered on top of the primary image and was done so purposefully to overlap the primary boarder. A centered card will have the rear of Banks near the right boarder and there will be some white space, however, less boarder than the primary image.

My attached card is shifted to the left probably 60/40ish but looks good top to bottom. The left/right off centering is consistent from top to bottom based on the width of the boarder between the cubs logo and right boarder being the same as that at the bottom boarder.
You really can’t go wrong with any Banks rookie but they sure look extra amazing centered!
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