New Member Question - Protocol - Not Leaving the "Sold" Price Up

[Kevin]

Hi all - I'm sure this has been answered many, many times before, but what is the reasoning for deleting the final "sold" price? There are a ton of protocol questions I have. I hope you don't mind me asking as I am new to the community.

[jcmtiger]

Originally Posted by Kevin

Hi all - I'm sure this has been answered many, many times before, but what is the reasoning for deleting the final "sold" price? There are a ton of protocol questions I have. I hope you don't mind me asking as I am new to the community.

I would like to see them too

[Rhotchkiss]

This has been discussed numerous times over the 5 years since I joined the board. There is no rule, as there should not be - each person’s listing is theirs and they can post, keep, or remove whatever they want. Perhaps if you PM the seller you may get an answer, but they are under no formal or informal obligation to provide you one. The BST is place to buy, sell and trade - it is not a price guide.

Also, you can “bump” your listings as often as you want, but you may gain a reputation if you start pulling a Mize - bumping your listing super-often many many times and it does not sell. BTW- that’s only one of several unsavory tactics that we could call a “Mize”

Long story short - no obligation to leave price; it’s totally up to the parties

[Casey2296]

Originally Posted by Rhotchkiss

This has been discussed numerous times over the 5 years since I joined the board. There is no rule, as there should not be - each person’s listing is theirs and they can post, keep, or remove whatever they want. Perhaps if you PM the seller you may get an answer, but they are under no formal or informal obligation to provide you one. The BST is place to buy, sell and trade - it is not a price guide.

Also, you can “bump” your listings as often as you want, but you may gain a reputation if you start pulling a Mize - bumping your listing super-often many many times and it does not sell. BTW- that’s only one of several unsavory tactics that we could call a “Mize”

Long story short - no obligation to leave price; it’s totally up to the parties

Bumped...

[bnorth]

Originally Posted by Rhotchkiss

This has been discussed numerous times over the 5 years since I joined the board. There is no rule, as there should not be - each person’s listing is theirs and they can post, keep, or remove whatever they want. Perhaps if you PM the seller you may get an answer, but they are under no formal or informal obligation to provide you one. The BST is place to buy, sell and trade - it is not a price guide.

Also, you can “bump” your listings as often as you want, but you may gain a reputation if you start pulling a Mize - bumping your listing super-often many many times and it does not sell. BTW- that’s only one of several unsavory tactics that we could call a “Mize”

Long story short - no obligation to leave price; it’s totally up to the parties

I believe there is kinda a rule. You are not supposed to delete the listing completely, we do have a member that does it though. You can remove the price. That is my understanding anyway. Also I think you are only supposed to bump every few days. Some bump way more and it is kinda annoying.

[oldeboo]

Getting a ton of emails and interest, still available

[Kevin]

Originally Posted by oldeboo

Getting a ton of emails and interest, still available

Hilarous...

Thanks guys. This is going to sound ridiculous, but I am not handling the "search" function well. Same thing with the Imperial C46 questions I had.

I'll do my best to do better searches.

[x2drich2000]

Originally Posted by bnorth

I believe there is kinda a rule. You are not supposed to delete the listing completely. You can remove the price. That is my understanding anyway. Also I think you are only supposed to bump every few days. Some bump way more and it is kinda annoying.

Ben, exactly my understanding as well. Basically if everyone deleted their post entirely, the place would look like a ghost town. A couple reason people might delete the price 1) the buyer might not want other people knowing what they paid 2) the seller might not want people to know what they gave away 3) with no price, it stops the next person from saying I would have given you x more. Others leave the price up and their post gets bumped 10 years later asking if the card is still available.

Regarding bumping threads, it is generally not advised to bump more than once every 3 days or so. Don't be that guy whose post always has to be at the top and knock everyone else down the page. Basically, play nice and you'll fit right in.

DJ

[ullmandds]

Originally Posted by x2drich2000

Ben, exactly my understanding as well. Basically if everyone deleted their post entirely, the place would look like a ghost town. A couple reason people might delete the price 1) the buyer might not want other people knowing what they paid 2) the seller might not want people to know what they gave away 3) with no price, it stops the next person from saying I would have given you x more. Others leave the price up and their post gets bumped 10 years later asking if the card is still available.

Regarding bumping threads, it is generally not advised to bump more than once every 3 days or so. Don't be that guy whose post always has to be at the top and knock everyone else down the page. Basically, play nice and you'll fit right in.

DJ

God I wish I deleted that Plank Mothers Bread thread!!!!!!

[oldeboo]

For me as a buyer, when a price is removed and replaced with "sold" it becomes pretty clear cut to see availability. It's especially useful if multiple cards are for sale. Frankly, at that point I don't really care what it sold for.

Of course there is the debate that some like to keep sale prices private while others want them public, but your thoughts fall where they do on that.

Personally, I like having access to sales records on auction house websites and eBay as that is how I determine an acceptable price range. It gives me a starting point at least and there is enough data there to make a decent decision for most items no matter where the item is being sold. I'd much rather look at recent sales than any price guide. However, I think the B/S/T operates as a different beast in many aspects.

[chlankf]

Originally Posted by Rhotchkiss

pulling a Mize

Killing me with this one

[cammb]

Originally Posted by Rhotchkiss

This has been discussed numerous times over the 5 years since I joined the board. There is no rule, as there should not be - each person’s listing is theirs and they can post, keep, or remove whatever they want. Perhaps if you PM the seller you may get an answer, but they are under no formal or informal obligation to provide you one. The BST is place to buy, sell and trade - it is not a price guide.

Also, you can “bump” your listings as often as you want, but you may gain a reputation if you start pulling a Mize - bumping your listing super-often many many times and it does not sell. BTW- that’s only one of several unsavory tactics that we could call a “Mize”

Long story short - no obligation to leave price; it’s totally up to the parties

+1

[drmondobueno]

I found a solution to not leaving a data trail. I delete my for sale items before I post them. Problem solved.

[drcy]

Other than the written rules, there are no unwritten rules on the board. There are some common ideas of hobby etiquette (Don't point out an active auction on eBay, as others may be bidding on it), but even that is not a rule.

Obviously, though it's not written, if someone comes on the board and calls everyone assholes etc. every other post they may be given a time-out.

[JollyElm]

There have been many threads regarding this very topic. Try to search it out to see if you can find them. Just know, people seem to get pretty 'fired up' about what side of the equation they are on. It's a bit weird.

[ricktmd]

I delete the price so that a buyer has privacy. I also prefer a pm from a buyer to let me know if they want to buy an item as opposed to a post stating a I will take it. If they choose to post "pm sent" to mark the order in which a commitment comes in that make sense as well. Once the item is purchased, I think the buyer and new owner should have the right to sell it on the board again without someone referencing what they paid for it

[steve B]

I don't think it matters for most cards. At this point, they have fairly well understood values outside of things like pandemics making everyone crazy.
For most a simple search of ebay completed items provides a good approximate price.

But for less commonly traded things, it's good having a price somewhere, anywhere.

I don't particularly care what someone paid, and consider it a pretty tacky negotiating tactic. If I do know, I keep it to myself and might use it as a guide if it was recent. Like if I know someone paid 50, the chances of getting close to that are low so I probably wouldn't even try. (being an opportunistic collector, I generally don't negotiate, either the deal is good, or I just pass it up- just like at shows)


WFIW, a lot of my cards were bought in the 80's... bringing up what I may have paid would be incredibly irrelevant.

[Bartholomew_Bump_Bailey]

My screenname is slightly relevant. Also, as a fellow newbie I cannot thank you all enough for all the wonderful help during my brief time. I may not post that much, but enjoy reading daily!!

[nolemmings]

On the few occasions where I was seller, I generally leave the price up unless the buyer asks me to remove it. As buyer, I couldn't care less if the price is left showing.

I can see where a seller may not want to show the sales price if there was a noticeable discount given through pms or emails. He would not want to mislead by leaving the original asking price up, yet may think it weakens his negotiating position in future sales if it is shown he has reduced a lot or often in the past.