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06-04-2009, 05:43 AM
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T210 Red Borders
What is the line of thinking on how Series 1 through 8 were issued? One series at a time or all in one shot? Assuming Series 1 came first, when during the baseball season were they first released?
The Standard Catalog does not address. John 
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06-04-2009, 07:06 AM
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That is a very interesting question ---let me add a fact and see if we can, as a group, figure this out. Casey Stengel was pictured on the T210 Series 6 card in a Maysville uniform. He started the season with Shelbyville and the franchise was transferred to Maysville on August 24, 1910 so this card at least must have been produced very late in the season.Since he only played a combined total of 69 games in 1910 he must have appeared in very few games for Maysville. I hope this will be of help.
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06-04-2009, 09:58 AM
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T210 Distribution
I've always assumed (although I don't have anything to back it up) that these cards were distributed regionally - the Virginia League cards in the Virginia area, Blue Grass League in Kentucky, etc.
I can't see the marketing appeal of including Southern League players in cigarettes sold in Virginia, or cards from the Maysville, KY team being included in packs sold in New Orleans. I've always wanted to run across an Old Mill newspaper ad from one of these cities, that pictured the cards being offered - but so far, no luck.
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06-04-2009, 10:06 AM
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I should also add that the transfer of Shelbyville to Maysville in 1910 is not conclusive since there were 3 Shelbyville players ( Kircher, Van Landingham and Womble)depicted in the Shelbyville uniform for the T210 Series 6 issue.
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06-04-2009, 02:14 PM
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The time line of manufacture and distribution is something that may never be figured out.
Another example: Keifel is pictured with Richmond on Series 2 from his time with the team in 1909 and also for Lexington in Series 6 from 1910. This has always struck me as curious. Shawn
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06-04-2009, 03:19 PM
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Re : T210 Keifel
Is this in fact the same Keifel in series 2 or a brother ?
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Collector of Nashville & Southern Memorabilia Last edited by DixieBaseball; 06-04-2009 at 03:19 PM.
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06-04-2009, 06:31 PM
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SABR's ml database shows George Keifel playing for Dayton of the Central League in 1908, both Richmond and Portsmouth of the Virginia League in 1909, and then the Lexington Colts of the Bluegrass League in 1910. He was a weakhitting, part time catcher, hitting .159, .207, and .192.
The database also shows a Keifel of unknown first name playing in 1912 for St. Thomas in the Canadian League.... but that can't be George. The guy in the CL hit .273 at an unknown position, if that was George he'd have played another year somewhere. I think the two Keifel cards in T210 are for George Keifel. In the fall of 1909 Old Mill starts out with their red border cards, the first 2 or 3 series go well enough, so they expand. Son of a gun, Keifel isn't with Richmond anymore, so Old Mill gets the card updated to depict Keifel with his new Lexington, Ky team. That's what I think at the present... FW
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