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gai pack grading
Posted By: ali_lapoint
i know gai drops the ball when it comes to identifying cigarette packs accurately. but how are they overall when it comes to grading packs? i have some unopened vintage packs that i have been thinking about having graded just to keep them in something that is air tight and sealed. this would also help to curb the ever mounting temptation to open them. have any of you had unopened packs graded by gai before? what kind of criteria do they measure the packs against? i know rips and tears would be issues, but beyond that i'm having a hard time telling what they judge the packs on. will an unripped or torn pack automatically get a 7 or 8? |
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gai pack grading
Posted By: John Moran
PSA is grading packs now, use them only. FYI, Steve Hart is the grader. |
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gai pack grading
Posted By: ali_lapoint
i'm not familiar with steve hart. could you tell me a little about him? |
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gai pack grading
Posted By: CT Dean
Actually Steve does NOT do the grading, he only authenticates the packs are original and untampered with, once that is done it is on to PSA for actual grading and slabbing. Hope this helps. |
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gai pack grading
Posted By: davidcycleback
I'm no wax pack expert, but when they were the only wax pack graders on the block, GAI had a good reputation. |
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gai pack grading
Posted By: ali_lapoint
thats my understanding too. i have some real tough topps packs from the 1950s i want to get graded and naturally thought of GAI. how can you tell if a pack has been tampered with? now i'm worried. |
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gai pack grading
Posted By: Jon Canfield
I have some rare unopened packs and all have been graded by GAI. I've never had the thought to "cross" them to PSA. Most large auction houses continue to sell packs encapsulated by GAI (just look at the current Mastro auction for example) and I believe GAI's reputation for packs to still be very high. |
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gai pack grading
Posted By: davidcycleback
Ali, again I'm no wax pack expert, but the experts look at stuff like paper consistency and pattern at point of seal, gloss at point of seal, angle of corners due to resealing, etc. If you heat reseal a wax wrapper, it can change the gloss and consistency of the wax paper. So there are technical things they look at, not just if the paper is folded up nicely or there are tears. |
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gai pack grading
Posted By: Cobby33
This is Steve Hart. He's the king of unopened material, IMO. |
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gai pack grading
Posted By: Jodi Birkholm
David, |
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gai pack grading
Posted By: CN
I am not saying he is an expert but I always had a problem with Mark Murphy grading packs as he was a big seller in packs. Plus one year at a White Plains Show I had 4 unoppened packs and Mark tried to rip me off on his offer so I am always leery of him. This is just one person,s opinion. CN |
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