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Old 09-18-2022, 02:07 PM
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Here's what I have for ANON 3. All are Broadleaf/Cycle series except for Kling, which is from Recruit/Napoleon. Old Cardboard has a checklist for the B/C or R/N series. I'm guessing if 99 ANON 3 are known, then 1 is missing. Do we know which one should be eventually found?

Phelan, E Moore, Otto Miller, V Gregg, Kutina, O Wilson, J Ryan, Kirke, Donnelly, Kling, Tyler
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Old 09-18-2022, 05:31 PM
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Default There are guesses on the Anons.

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I'm guessing if 99 ANON 3 are known, then 1 is missing. Do we know which one should be eventually found?
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This has been a topic of some conversation since (as far as I'm aware) Tim N first hypothesized - in VCBC 38 I believe - that there would be 50 Recruit-class cards found with the anon 3 back (though he only had 22 listed from his survey). As Ron says, there are 49 known (list below). Some of the "harder" Recruit-class T207's are not represented in the list, and are the most common supposition. Of these, Ellis seems the most natural candidate. I believe the 49 number only came to be reached with the Heritage lot(s) auctioned in Oct 2012.

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There are a couple of patterns amongst all this:

1) The Recruits found with an anon-3 back generally have the coloring (logos, emblems, names) of the Broadleaf class cards (Pitts, Wash, Boston are good examples, Chi not so much). Easier to see if you look at T207 laid out by team. Brooklyn is an outlier, as Schardt and Rucker break the pattern (brown cap emblem), unlike Higgins, Knetzer, Northen and and Tooley.

2) As far as I'm aware, players found with a silver border (as opposed to tan) will not be found with an anon-3 back. This is purely speculative, as I'm not aware of a formal categorization of the borders to date, and some Recruits seem to be found with both, and some are only silver or only tan...

3) There seems to be (at the moment) a separation between Anon-3, blank, and brown-ink back amongst the Recruits. Some categorization has been done on the latter two backs, and to-date, there is no overlap. This is very preliminary, and there isn't an obvious reason whay this might be the case, but it is a valid (current) observation.

4) They (the Anon 3 Recruits specifically) are very rare at grades better than VG. I have only seen one or two. Ron may be able to provide more info here, or provide good counter examples, but they generally have not faired well with time. Broadleaf class Anon-3's are found at grades at least to Ex/Nm, though not nearly as often as their less-common Factory 25 counterparts.
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I think its just a matter of time before more is known, as other samples come to light, but I suspect Tim's supposition that there would be 50 is still a good working hypothesis.

The list of anon-3 recruits:
Block
Bodie
Carrigan
Cicotte
Collins
Easterly
Engle
Fromme
George
Gowdy
Graham
Hageman
Hall
Hallinan
Hamilton
Henry
Higgins
Hogan
Hooper
Kling
Knetzer
Leach
Leifield
Lewis
Lord (Harry)
McDonald
McIntyre
McKechnie
Mitchell (Mike)
Morgan (Ray)
Northen
Nunamaker
Perdue
Rucker
Schardt
Scott
Smith (Frank)
Speaker
Spratt
Steele
Stovall
Sullivan
Thomas
Tooley
Wagner
Wallace
Wingo
Wood
Zeider

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