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Old 09-07-2004, 04:01 PM
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Posted By: Aaron 

Does anyone have any information on the Breisch-Williams Company; I live in Kennett Square Pa. very close to Oxford and have taken an interset in the origins of the e107 set. Very hard to find anything so far. Thanks.

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Old 09-07-2004, 04:33 PM
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Posted By: The Other One (Julie)

Some e107s are photos--most of them:

and some of them are--apparently--sketches:



Both of these raggedy cards have excellent credentials.

I know nothin 'bout e-cards, except that everyone has to have a e107. (and an E145, and an E254) And a horizontal Matty (E92) and a patrician profile of Plank, which I think is a Caramel.

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I've heard that Breisch-Williams was not the only producer of cards with the e107 designation. Could this be a possibility for why the "artwork" is inconsistant across the set and different fonts are used at the bottom? The Thomas is not the only card that has this "handdrawn" appearance to it. I few others that I am aware of are like this as well. Zimmer, Carr...Taylor perhaps....

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The E107 of Thomas that Julie has shared actually appears to be a photo of the player that has been 'cut' and placed upon another background. It reminds me of the style and photo quality of the E99 and E100 portrait cards, just with a solid gray instead of solid color background.

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Posted By: The Other One (Julie)

Example of a Yum Yum portrait photo (1888, Yum Yum tobacco) borrowed from JC:


And a Yum Yum sketch (minus ad), from the same set:



If Yum Yum could do it in 1888, why couldn't Breisch-Williams do it in 1903?

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Posted By: petecld

Neither of the E107 cards is an illustration.

The Cross card has image quality of most E107s and appears as if it was produced directly from a photo negative.

Brian P. has the right idea. Newspapers often mask out (remove) the backgrounds around player images, be it a portrait or an action pose, to allow the player to stand out better if they feel the background takes away from the players image or for effect when used on the final printed page. The Thomas card has that look to it. I think they used a photo that was previously touched up by a newspaper and since they were using a photo as opposewd to a negative they would need to create a print negative for the printing process of the cards and that process resulted in the photo quality of the Thomas card since it is essentially a 2nd generation image.

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Posted By: The Other One (Julie)

....hey, I like it!

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Posted By: Julie Vognar

and I agree with the post that said: it definitely began life as a photo, but due to touch=ups for, perhaps, a newspaper, required a new negative with new touch-ups--so his hat and the outide of his uniform have been drawn in with a pen. There's no way his eyes or his mouth could be drawn--they're too--photographic!

All of this, of course, came BEFORE it was a card (Mark Macrae has seen Lew Lipset's, and says it's identical to mine, as far the picture goes), as the card shows no signs of tampering--it's a very nice card (as I'm sure you e107 collectors will agree). I only wanted one...

(SCAN SHOWN ABOVE, WITH THE CROSS SCAN)

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