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Old 12-03-2020, 01:44 PM
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Mike, I love the card just how it sits.

I’d keep it in its PSA slab!
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Old 12-03-2020, 01:47 PM
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Mike, I love the card just how it sits.

I’d keep it in its PSA slab!
I will Tony, thanks for the advice, its fun to dream! Your autos are on the way btw! Congrats on your win!

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Old 12-03-2020, 01:58 PM
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I've got the perfect solve for you. Since you love SGC, I would be willing to trade my SGC for your PSA. As an added bonus, mine has all 4 borders removed so it look EXTRA GOOD against that black mat.....

I'd leave it where it is, its a great card (stain and all), it has character and I have border envy.
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Old 12-03-2020, 02:00 PM
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I've got the perfect solve for you. Since you love SGC, I would be willing to trade my SGC for your PSA. As an added bonus, mine has all 4 borders removed so it look EXTRA GOOD against that black mat.....

I'd leave it where it is, its a great card (stain and all), it has character and I have border envy.
Brian,

Border envy? Love that! Your card does look really nice. I'll probably pass but the "border envy" line almost worked!

Peace, Mike

PS The colors and registration on yours is off the charts! Nice! You know the old SGC grades were so small you had to squint sometimes to see the grade. They must have found out I'm getting older and their grades literally jump off the slab! I do like their holders and their consistency!

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Old 12-03-2020, 02:07 PM
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IMO -

With that large tape stain SGC will not grade it higher than a 1.5 but it might be visually nicer in the SGC holder.

If you're lucky you MIGHT get a 2.

It's a nice card. I would be happy with the fact you have a very nice "fair" condition card.
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Old 12-03-2020, 02:20 PM
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Border envy? Love that! Your card does look really nice. I'll probably pass but the "border envy" line almost worked!

Peace, Mike

PS The colors and registration on yours is off the charts! Nice! You know the old SGC grades were so small you had to squint sometimes to see the grade. They must have found out I'm getting older and their grades literally jump off the slab! I do like their holders and their consistency!
It was worth a shot! Actually, I love the card, he has an extra growth on his ear as well, but it just adds to the charm. Ironically enough PSA wouldn't cross it over, claiming they couldn't ensure safe encapsulation of the card. It's kinda like not wanting to buy shoes for your dog with no legs because they might get dirty?!
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Old 12-03-2020, 03:00 PM
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I would leave it in the PSA holder, it is what it is. Getting a half grade more from SGC is not going to value the card any higher.
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I would leave it in the PSA holder, it is what it is. Getting a half grade more from SGC is not going to value the card any higher.
Agree with this. Leave it where it is. I think the 1.5 from PSA was a gift. Nice card!
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Old 12-03-2020, 03:37 PM
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It was worth a shot! Actually, I love the card, he has an extra growth on his ear as well, but it just adds to the charm. Ironically enough PSA wouldn't cross it over, claiming they couldn't ensure safe encapsulation of the card. It's kinda like not wanting to buy shoes for your dog with no legs because they might get dirty?!
That's amazing that they would not cross that over?!?!?! You would think they would want that in their holder but that is one of my gripes is that like Beckett, I wish they would slide the card in a clear sealed penny sleeve. Each sleeve would fit different sized cards and the movement issue or damage issue would be resolved. Not sure if you like the penny sleeve idea that Beckett employs but I love it!

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Old 12-03-2020, 03:59 PM
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If you're just looking at it in financial terms, you're basically just looking at a math problem. The question is, "How much of a $ value increase, do you need to get when SGC gives this card a grade of 2 or higher, in order to break even on all the times you spend $500 and they return the card in the PSA holder.

The equation looks like this:

Break even = (% of the time SGC does not grade the card a 2 or higher)(-$500) + (% of the time SGC grades card a 2 or higher)(x)

Where x equals the value increase needed in order to break even

You can play around with the % chance that SGC gives you a 2 or higher.

In my opinion, it's next to impossible that SGC would grade this card a 2 or higher. Not impossible, but close. So for me, I would say it's about a 2% chance. Here's the math for 2%:

0 = (.98)(-500) + (.02)(x)

0 = -490 + .02x

subtract -490 from each side:

490 = .02x

divide both sides by .02

x=24,500

So at a 2% chance of receiving a 2 or higher, you'd need the vlaue increase from your PSA 1.5 to the new SGC holder to $24,500 in order to break even on the bet you're making.

If you think there's a 5% chance, you need the value increase to be $9500

At a 10% chance, you need the value increase to be $4500

Also, it's not really $500. Probably closer to $600 after you pay postage and insurance twice.

In my opinion you should keep it as is, and it's not really close.
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