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Pillbox Boater style Jockey style Boston style Short Brim |
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Wow, Mark! Great caps.
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Spectacular as always Mark, and I hope all is well with you lately. I love the green piping on the short brim. Great caps!
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Thanks Gary and Brent...
Brent, that green one was tailored to match the uniform (which I have as well). The lime green piping and pinstripes match the Uni to a tee. It's a Draper & Maynard specimen from the 20s. So much pride in workmanship back then! |
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Mark- When do you date these caps to individually? This is a little out of my area and I need all the education I can get as I am looking for a 19th century example for my collection.
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what Gary said
except wayyy out of my area - I need a cap and glove to accompany my bat & balls :-)
personally I think that jockey cap is just great! |
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A couple examples...
The red cap was worn by a pitcher on the 1899 Cornell baseball team. Eight panels, silk interior lining, no leather sweat band, no ventilation grommets, no visor stitching - which are all some indicators of any earlier cap. (There is nothing completely definitive, and earlier features can be seen on more recent caps). The stitched visor was first introduced in 1903.
The boater style cap is University of Chicago, c.1910. Last edited by vintagesportscollector; 01-14-2021 at 04:57 PM. |
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Painful to see that gorgeous Boater Style, as I think I contacted the seller about 5 minutes after you got to him. Glad it went to a great home! |
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Here's a link to an 1893 Ad for Baseball Caps. Some very nice illustrations, but the Jockey Style (similar to my Orange/White one) got cut off in the picture... https://www.worthpoint.com/worthoped...rts-1923974706 The slouchy Boston Style and an earlier version of the Pillbox are pictured as well. More to follow... Last edited by perezfan; 01-14-2021 at 06:36 PM. |
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Here are a few more catalogue pages and ads. The color one is from 1887; The two B&W are from the mid-late 1890s. I would love to get my hands on the pillbox with vertical striping (simply labeled No. 1), but I have never seen one come up for sale.
Last edited by perezfan; 01-14-2021 at 07:33 PM. |
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Thanks for the great information, Mark. Not to hijack this thread, but I have one more question. How do you identify a vintage 19th century cap from a modern one made for use by vintage baseball teams? It seems like a modern one could be easily doctored to fool many a collector.
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- leather sweat bands: common in more recent caps, but not 19th century. The use of silk interior lining, covering the entire interior, is often seen in 19th century caps. From my honestly limited experience I have not come across a 19th cap with a leather band, but they very well may exist. - ventilation holes, especially metal grommets. Vent holes are rarely seen in 19th century - where I have seen in 19thc they are stitched holes, and not metal grommets. - visor stitching - The stitched visor was first introduced by Spalding in 1903 in their 'Philadelphia Style' cap. - eight panels: indicative of earlier caps, but there is a lot of variation here. At the end of the day you just kind of know from experience after feeling and comparing the stitching, materials and construction compared to a 19th century cap. A modern cap would stand out, but I am sure with enough effort and expertise you can give a modern cap that older feel and look. |
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Old Baseball Caps
Here are some from my collection:
https://www.antiquebaseballuniforms.com/caps Cheers, Mark (Mark's post above is amazing!!) |
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That's a proper man cave on your welcome page, Mark! I rarely see a collection displayed that makes mine feel small. I am truly impressed.
Since we're on the subject of caps, here are a few minor league beauties I haven't posted before. Here's an early 1950s Indianapolis Indians cap, a 1939 American Association All-Stars cap and a late 1940s Rochester Red Wings cap ... Last edited by Chris Counts; 11-29-2021 at 08:17 PM. |
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