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is it just me or have you noticed....
Posted By: pete
that unless you are selling a "high end" graded card or a "rare" card, that no one is bidding on them until the last day? |
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is it just me or have you noticed....
Posted By: jay behrens
competition is heavy for those type of cards. No one wants to tip their hand that they are interested in them. Everyone talks about cards getting sniped at all the time, but no one ever seems to snipe the cards I list. The last one I listed was an SGC50 Delong McManus that went for jsut a little over $100. I'm jsut glad it went to fellow board member, but it still kills me since the card should have gone for over $200. For all the great deals I seem to dig up, I don't seem to get good prices for the cards I sell |
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is it just me or have you noticed....
Posted By: davidcycleback
A problem for people who don't bid early is that the seller can raise the minimum bid or pull the auction if there are no bids. If, after 5 days, no one has placed the $5 minimum bid on a $2,000 item, I don't know why the seller wouldn't substantially raise the minmum bid or pull the item. My personal saying as an eBay seller is that I honor all bids, but there have to be bids for me to honor. |
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is it just me or have you noticed....
Posted By: Martin Neal
I rarely bid early on an auction unless I am not that interested in acquiring it. It is sort of like bidding on a project that you might be pressed for time to complete. You bid low and if you get it, great, it will be worthwhile to do. The auctions that I would really like to get are the ones I try to bid on within the last 30 seconds. I ALWAYS put in the maximum I am willing to pay for it and then still have time to call myself a liar. |
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is it just me or have you noticed....
Posted By: rob
if a bid is place on an item in the last minute of an auction, the auction ending deadline is automatically extended another 5 minutes. If Ebay was smart, they'd offer that feature for another fee. |
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is it just me or have you noticed....
Posted By: T206Collector
...there is zero, absolutely none, nada, zilch, benefit to a bidder of placing a bid at anytime before 20 seconds are left in the auction. The only person benefited by early bids is the seller -- indeed, sellers on this post are complaining about only late bids on their auctions. If you bid early, (a) you only drive the price of items up by giving bidders an opportunity to eat away at your high proxy bid, and (b) you allow people to track you bidding history, thus leaving yourself open to snipes. |
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is it just me or have you noticed....
Posted By: pete
i agree that waiting until the last minute or so is great as a buyer...but as a seller it sucks, if i list a $200 card with no reserve and there is ZERO action on it when the last day comes around, guess what...i may pull it depending on the number of "watchers". i havent had to do that yet but id start to get nervous that a $200 card may go for $60-70 (as a seller)... as a buyer i am happier than a pig in s***. |
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is it just me or have you noticed....
Posted By: Josh K.
For some reason, when Im a buyer and I put in a low bid so the card is not pulled, there always seems to be a flury of activity/snipes at the end of the auction. |
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is it just me or have you noticed....
Posted By: jay behrens
Josh, what you just described is what happened to my Delong card. It's $100 a few days in, had a bunch of watchers and then never got another bid. Taht seems to be how all my auctions go |
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is it just me or have you noticed....
Posted By: Joe P.
Regardles of a high, or low end item. |
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is it just me or have you noticed....
Posted By: Judge Dred (Fred)
Jay, one word - "bummer", an SGC50 Delong for $100 - somebody's happy (no the seller). |
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is it just me or have you noticed....
Posted By: jay behrens
the card sold about 3 weeks before Christmas, which makes it that much stranger. As I pointed out, I never seem to have much luck with selling my cards. I guess the eBay gods get even that way for all the deals I find. |
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is it just me or have you noticed....
Posted By: James Feagin
I had an SGC 84 1915 Cracker Jack Brooklyn Federal League common and I got $200 for it. 20 watchers and the early bidder won |
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is it just me or have you noticed....
Posted By: Larry
For the exact reason as T206 Collector stated, I as a seller(I also buy a lot) may now pull a listing if I see no action at all,within 12 hours of closing,if everyone follows the no bid philosophy,or just sell at BIN. If last minute shoppers buy from us or not, so be it. I will just send my best cards, highest value or obscure issues to some major auction catalog etc and bidders unfortunately will probably end up paying more that way..... |
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is it just me or have you noticed....
Posted By: Joe P.
Maybe you don't mind getting into a Macho Bidding War, 7 days before the finals. ..... I do. |
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is it just me or have you noticed....
Posted By: warshawlaw
don't list the card with a ridiculous minimum, or use a reserve. If you choose to list the card at $5 you have no right to be pissed if it sells for $5. I never bid early on something I want because I don't want to be shilled or tracked. |
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is it just me or have you noticed....
Posted By: Rob
2 reasons for a low openiing bid: 1. Pay less on ebay listing fees and 2. Hope 2 bidders get into a bidding war making item sell for more than what it would with a higher opening bid. |
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is it just me or have you noticed....
Posted By: Larry
To Joe P.... |
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is it just me or have you noticed....
Posted By: Joann
Just a few random comments: |
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is it just me or have you noticed....
Posted By: jay behrens
Delongs are from a fringe set with minimal following. Most of my buying is of what you consider marginal and fringe sets, yet I rarely seems to get good deals on these cards. The deals I get are when cards are misidentified and miscatagorized. It just boggles my mind that I can properly list a card with a good description and yet get little action on my cards. |
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is it just me or have you noticed....
Posted By: pete
one thing i do as a bidder on low starting cards is put in the opening bid...lets's say $9.99 knowing that its a $200-$300 card, i know i will get outbid, then come back late in the auction and bid again if it's still in the range i want to pay for that particular card...i'll never put in my max at the beginning unless i'll be out of town on the last day, i've never used a snipe service since there will never be a card that i cant go without...at least one that i can afford. |
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is it just me or have you noticed....
Posted By: cmoking
I can't imagine any intelligent human being not taking into account the buyer's fee when bidding at a major auction house. I know some people don't...and I don't consider those people intelligent (even if they have gobs of money). |
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is it just me or have you noticed....
Posted By: Joe P.
Larry |
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is it just me or have you noticed....
Posted By: Larry
As far as Van Goghs, there are hundreds of different ones, all unique, there are maybe 4-5 E105 Wagners, 2 PSA low grade, one or two SGC different grades and 1 GAI, 5 total...all unique in themselves..near mint, E103 Cobb near mint, N142 Duke Delehanty etc.. would you consider that rare or work of art?, I will not be debating rarity, it is supply vs demand...period. I personally rather have the van gogh also...but someone else may feel the E105 or E103 Cobb or N142 Delahanty |
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is it just me or have you noticed....
Posted By: Joe P.
I don't even know who the hell you are? |
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is it just me or have you noticed....
Posted By: Charlie Barokas
Joe P. |
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is it just me or have you noticed....
Posted By: Bruce Babcock
I agree with T206 Collector that there is no reason to bid before the last seconds of an ebay auction. |
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is it just me or have you noticed....
Posted By: Joe P.
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is it just me or have you noticed....
Posted By: Cobby33
Can't we all just get along? |
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is it just me or have you noticed....
Posted By: leon
I knew utopia couldn't last....sure has been nice the last few weeks though....could we like replicate that or something ? |
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is it just me or have you noticed....
Posted By: Josh K.
Joe P - I think you've got it wrong here. Everyone now knows that you dont want to be macho. Frankly, from a buyer's perspective, I completely agree with you that bidding in the last seconds is much more advantageous. However, you seem to want to discount/disparage anyone who has an opinion or perspective different than your own. Larry is obviously a seller and has a different perspective than you. Doesnt make it wrong. In fact, when I sell cards that I no longer want, I too hope for numerous opening bids. I have also had enough of my auctions end for much lower than I had hoped/expected due to snipes that I have simply started to put high opening bids or reserves on my auctions. Without those, I would consider doing the same thing as other sellers are discussing - removing any auction w/o bids on the last day. |
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is it just me or have you noticed....
Posted By: Charlie Barokas
Josh, |
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is it just me or have you noticed....
Posted By: Larry
Hi...I am quite amused that this became so contraversal, thank you to those that understand how simple my point was and it is a fact, if you feel like sniping, go ahead, dealers will do what they have to so they can stay in businessn and reputable dealers who also collect want to see the same legit playing field as do collectors as want to be treated similarly. |
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is it just me or have you noticed....
Posted By: Joe P.
Larry, no one ever questioned your fairness or integrity, I hardly know you. |
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is it just me or have you noticed....
Posted By: Cobby33
Edited to stay out of it. |
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is it just me or have you noticed....
Posted By: Joe P.
* |
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is it just me or have you noticed....
Posted By: Larry
Good Point except for every 1 of these situations, there is 4 where you will not have two people bid up a card to unnatural levels...plus T209 is not one of the items I am referring to since none of them I would consider "work of art" or top shelf rarities...I was and still refer to "museum quality" four to five figure cards...and the "hothead" comment referred to your comment that bidders that see someone pull listing will not bid on that user id...If someone is that touchy where they cannot see the dealer's point of view to some extent, and that if EVERYONE followed sniping and no one even began bidding, it would be ridiculous to list HIGHER QUALITY CARDS...ex E103 Cobb, T227 Cobb, E90-1 Young etc...not common T209's which are consistant "hot" cards...If a T209 Jackson was available on e bay, that would be one that i would not allow to wait until end....for anyone to bid or would be reserved. |
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is it just me or have you noticed....
Posted By: Joe P.
Larry: |
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