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Old 07-20-2023, 01:14 PM
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Default H. D. Smith ("Scrapps") set sales analysis

hi all,

I thought this might interest some of you. I was trying to figure out how to price my lower-grade Scrapps set for the National and I decided to try some analysis. The spreadsheet doc with the full info can't be posted here but if you want a copy just email me at apspr@att.net and I'll send it to you.

My Scrapps cards are ungraded presently but I figure they'll all be 2/30 or lower when they grade. So I tabulated all sales of AU, PSA1/SGC10, 1.5/20, and 2/30 Scrapps recorded by VCP since January 2020 (since there was a big jump in prices between 2019 and 2020, as with so many cards).

Then I derived an average cumulative price for the 13 non-HOFers and an individual average for each of the 5 HOFers.

RESULTS:
Commons avg. $244 each (73 sales)
Brouthers avg. $794 (9 sales)
Comiskey avg. $665 (6 sales)
Hanlon avg. $761 (7 sales)
Thompson avg. $1572 (6 sales)
White avg. $2033 (7 sales)
HOF Average: $1146
Estimated this way, the set would be worth about $8900 (244x13 + 1146x5)

Then, to test for anomalies, I did the compilation in two other ways:

1. Same as above but with the lowest and highest figures for each player dropped.
RESULTS:
Commons avg. $237 each
Brouthers avg. $779
Comiskey avg. $650
Hanlon avg. $631
Thompson avg. $1406
White avg. $2075
HOF Average: $1089
Estimated this way, the set would be worth about $8520 (237x13 + 1089x5)


2. Now using only the AU, 1, and 1.5 sales since 2020
RESULTS:
Commons avg. $223 each
Brouthers avg. $715
Comiskey avg. $371 (only one sale)
Hanlon avg. $531
Thompson avg. $1062
White avg. $1641
HOF Average: $900
Estimated this way, the set would be worth about $7400 (223x13 + 900x5)
In this estimate, I would add another $300 for the Comiskey since that one sale is an unusually low price (it was a nasty beater) = $7700. And there's one sale of White which is anomalously low ($492). Without it the White average jumps to $2024 which I think is probably more like it - With those two adjustments my estimate of the set's value jumps to around 8K.

I'm not presenting these figures as "the truth" or anything - just thought it was an interesting result, and helps me feel my set price is now more accurate.

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Old 07-20-2023, 05:25 PM
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Very interesting Tim - The Scrapps of Deacon White is a great alternative for HOF collectors who can’t afford - or even find - an OJ of him.
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Old 07-20-2023, 05:33 PM
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The Scrapps Deacon White is not only more affordable than his OJ's, but, in my opinion, a much nicer looking card. I like it so much that I actually didn't feel too bad trading away my OJ as part of a large deal.
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May I take this moment to return to my platform and insist that there is no such thing as Scrapps Tobacco. Never has been, never will be.

Those cards were made by H.D. Smith & Co and sold with gum making them one of the first to do so.

We need to drop "Scrapps" once and for all.
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Old 07-21-2023, 08:52 AM
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May I take this moment to return to my platform and insist that there is no such thing as Scrapps Tobacco. Never has been, never will be.

Those cards were made by H.D. Smith & Co and sold with gum making them one of the first to do so.

We need to drop "Scrapps" once and for all.
Completely agree!

Great sales analysis on the original post as well.
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Hi Mark, I did put Scrapps in quotes, at least

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May I take this moment to return to my platform and insist that there is no such thing as Scrapps Tobacco. Never has been, never will be.

Those cards were made by H.D. Smith & Co and sold with gum making them one of the first to do so.

We need to drop "Scrapps" once and for all.
The set should really have an e-card designation. "Scrapps Tobacco" is a catchy name though so it will probably always run with the set.
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