What is the difference between BGS and BCCG?

[Fuddjcal]

What is the difference between BGS and BCCG? Did they just change their name and why? These effin acronyms are so ridiculous and is there a difference between a BCCG 9 to a PSA 7? Does PSA crack these stupid BCCG plastic containers, regrade on it's own merit and put back into their own stupid holder? Pretty new to all the grading stuff but want to buy graded if at all, due to fakes everywhere?

Should one just steer clear of BCCG, are they a scam? would you have any BCCG in your collection or were they shitty at grading and no one wants them

Thanks

[jchcollins]

Originally Posted by Fuddjcal

What is the difference between BGS and BCCG? Did they just change their name and why? These effin acronyms are so ridiculous and is there a difference between a BCCG 9 to a PSA 7? Does PSA crack these stupid BCCG plastic containers, regrade on it's own merit and put back into their own stupid holder? Pretty new to all the grading stuff but want to buy graded if at all, due to fakes everywhere?

Should one just steer clear of BCCG, are they a scam? would you have any BCCG in your collection or were they shitty at grading and no one wants them

Thanks

They are not the same. BGS is for modern cards. BVG is for vintage, and BCCG is something different still that was supposed to be some type of collectors club as a cheaper option. Honestly I don't know much about BCCG because I've always steered clear, but from what I know of them, it was an attempt to change the grading scale with fine print detail. For example their 8 is not NM-MT, it's "EX or better" (Huh?) Yes, if you submit a card in a BCCG holder, any other service will absolutely crack it, grade on their scale and it's own merits - and it would not be uncommon for a BCCG 8 to be something like a PSA 4.

IMO, Beckett grading is your last option. I would never send to them. Their marketing if nothing else is a disaster, and they are not respected in the marketplace for grading anything other than modern cards. Vintage doesn't really hold it's value. I have gotten some deals there, but always bust the cards out of the BVG slabs.

[irv]

Originally Posted by Fuddjcal

What is the difference between BGS and BCCG? Did they just change their name and why? These effin acronyms are so ridiculous and is there a difference between a BCCG 9 to a PSA 7? Does PSA crack these stupid BCCG plastic containers, regrade on it's own merit and put back into their own stupid holder? Pretty new to all the grading stuff but want to buy graded if at all, due to fakes everywhere?

Should one just steer clear of BCCG, are they a scam? would you have any BCCG in your collection or were they shitty at grading and no one wants them

Thanks

This really turned me off of Becket. When it first came out I said many sellers will be selling 7's, 8's and 9's as if those would also grade the same at PSA or SGC.
Some said I was being silly thinking that but in no time that is exactly what I seen.
These cards in those holders are nothing like those grades, and if fact they would grade half or less than half at PSA or SGC.

Newbies to the hobby or uneducated/ignorant buyers may not know this however and if Beckett didn't see this type of behaviour happening when they came out with this new grading system, then I don't think they're as "Professional" as some profess them to be.

[Marchillo]

Originally Posted by irv

This really turned me off of Becket. When it first came out I said many sellers will be selling 7's, 8's and 9's as if those would also grade the same at PSA or SGC.
Some said I was being silly thinking that but in no time that is exactly what I seen.
These cards in those holders are nothing like those grades, and if fact they would grade half or less than half at PSA or SGC.

Newbies to the hobby or uneducated/ignorant buyers may not know this however and if Beckett didn't see this type of behaviour happening when they came out with this new grading system, then I don't think they're as "Professional" as some profess them to be.

Exactly right. One of my buddies who just got back into the collecting world is doing a Nolan Ryan run and doing pretty well in the ungraded card game. He sends me a link to a 71 Ryan saying I can’t believe this card is a 7. I look and it’s a BCCG case so I explained the difference. It really hurts newbies in the collecting world the most.

[jchcollins]

Originally Posted by Marchillo

Exactly right. One of my buddies who just got back into the collecting world is doing a Nolan Ryan run and doing pretty well in the ungraded card game. He sends me a link to a 71 Ryan saying I can’t believe this card is a 7. I look and it’s a BCCG case so I explained the difference. It really hurts newbies in the collecting world the most.

It's a gimmick. That is exactly what they are going for - a few new people to buy 7's expecting NM cards. You would think that from a cannabilism perspective alone they would have already given up on having 3 different and confusing systems that were doing the same thing just under different labels, but no. No other grading company to my knowledge does this.

[swarmee]

At least they have the BCCG 7: Very Good or Better or whatever in large print on their label. As long as they realize the card would likely grade a 3 at other companies, what they're doing isn't dishonest. Annoying, but not deceptive.

[Fuddjcal]

Thanks for the fantastic replies to this grading company and system. The collectors are not fond of their grading system it's apparent.

Are the holders easy to break cards out or should you let the professionals do that and ifso fatso, just expect a 5 or 6 SGC/PSA for a BGGS 9? If I were to undertake such a project?

I seem to remember stabbing and creasing a perfectly good Rose rookie card in the early eighties in just a regular holder for that time period. Just crumbled the card in the trash at the time. So, I'm not too clear behind the wheel with a knife/screw driver /plastic etc...

Thanks again

[Marchillo]

Originally Posted by swarmee

At least they have the BCCG 7: Very Good or Better or whatever in large print on their label. As long as they realize the card would likely grade a 3 at other companies, what they're doing isn't dishonest. Annoying, but not deceptive.

I’d say it’s a little deceptive for a newbie. If you know the grading scale and what they equate to it’s not, but some people see the number (my buddy) and don’t know until it’s explained.

It’s not like pretending a reprint is an original card, but it’s confusing for a newbie.