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Sort of OT...Vintage Football photo ID help...Penn State?/Pennsylvania Normal School?
Posted By: CLAUDE
Sorry it's not baseball Leon..just trying to get some guidance. Just picked up this photo today at a flea market and dont know anything about it. It measures 13 3/4" x 10 3/4". I dont know if it is football or rugby. Judging from the writing on the ball this photo is from 1907. I included a closer scan of the ball and also one of the equipment in the front. Can anyone help me with this? Real or copy?? Team?? Sport?? I had to scan in sections due to the size. The photo seems/feels real but I'm no expert. |
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Sort of OT...Vintage Football photo ID help...Penn State?/Pennsylvania Normal School?
Posted By: Dan Bretta
Where are you located Claude? That could be a start. |
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Sort of OT...Vintage Football photo ID help...Penn State?/Pennsylvania Normal School?
Posted By: CLAUDE
I live in upstate NY..Rochester area so a PA school would fit! |
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Sort of OT...Vintage Football photo ID help...Penn State?/Pennsylvania Normal School?
Posted By: Dan Bretta
I should add that it looks real to me and it is a football photo. |
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Sort of OT...Vintage Football photo ID help...Penn State?/Pennsylvania Normal School?
Posted By: davidcycleback
Agree with Dan that it looks good and it's definitely football (great nose guards). You just have to figure out what PNS stands for-- might be a college team. |
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Sort of OT...Vintage Football photo ID help...Penn State?/Pennsylvania Normal School?
Posted By: Ken McMillan
Penn state pre big Ten days? |
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Sort of OT...Vintage Football photo ID help...Penn State?/Pennsylvania Normal School?
Posted By: CLAUDE
So, any other ideas? Any reference site to maybe try and match the letters with a school...don't really know if it's highschool or college though. Also due to the larger size of the photo it there much value attached to this kind of stuff...seems like a pretty early piece for football (also excuse my ignorance, I have no idea when football started). |
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Sort of OT...Vintage Football photo ID help...Penn State?/Pennsylvania Normal School?
Posted By: Jimmy
I had a few from the Pennsylvania Normal School - which is now Penn State I believe - looks like the same school and logo - but these type photos can be hard to tell, were they are from. I have at least 6 of these type photos that are hard to identify |
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Sort of OT...Vintage Football photo ID help...Penn State?/Pennsylvania Normal School?
Posted By: andy becker
hi cluade, |
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Sort of OT...Vintage Football photo ID help...Penn State?/Pennsylvania Normal School?
Posted By: Dan Bretta
If it's a high school team then I agree with Andy that this is about a $30 photo, but if this turns out to be a photo of Penn State then it's probably in the several hundred dollar range to the right person. |
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Sort of OT...Vintage Football photo ID help...Penn State?/Pennsylvania Normal School?
Posted By: CLAUDE
I went to Penn State's home page and it says the team becam the Nittany Lions in 1907 so if this was "pre-Penn State" it may have been the freshman team and therefore a 1904 photograph. Any thoughts? |
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Sort of OT...Vintage Football photo ID help...Penn State?/Pennsylvania Normal School?
Posted By: Glyn Parson
Hi i am a graduate from Kutztown University in Pennsylvania and I know that in the early 1900s Kutztown was known as the Pennsylvania Normal School. A Normal School was generally a place where people went to become teachers, I also learned that at Kutztown when i was going there to become a teacher, changed majors along the way. |
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Sort of OT...Vintage Football photo ID help...Penn State?/Pennsylvania Normal School?
Posted By: gregor197
This is certainly not Penn State, which was known as Pennsylvania State College by the 1880s (see: http://www.psu.edu/ur/about/historyshort.html). |
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Sort of OT...Vintage Football photo ID help...Penn State?/Pennsylvania Normal School?
Posted By: davidcycleback
The larger size and presence of so much equipment and uniform styles will raise the value. |
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Sort of OT...Vintage Football photo ID help...Penn State?/Pennsylvania Normal School?
Posted By: John S
It seems as if all questions have been answered. I just wanted to chime in and say that it is a really nice vintage team photo. |
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Sort of OT...Vintage Football photo ID help...Penn State?/Pennsylvania Normal School?
Posted By: anthony
claude, i know rochester is big but any vintage card shops near greece? i will be in rochester the first week of august |
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Sort of OT...Vintage Football photo ID help...Penn State?/Pennsylvania Normal School?
Posted By: Keith
That was a nice flea market find; nice photo. I am guessing no photographer marks or anyother identifying marks, right? |
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Sort of OT...Vintage Football photo ID help...Penn State?/Pennsylvania Normal School?
Posted By: Glyn parson
I live 5 minutes from the kutztown campus Ill go look at some of the archives in the library on monday (family stuff all weekend) but I know it was definetly Pennsylvania Normal School as well as my wife ( also an alumni) says The Kutztown State Normal School, niether of us ever heard keystone state normal school, though that certainly doesnt mean it didnt ever have this name. If all normal (teacher) schools in PA were known as Pennsylvania State Normal Schools as an abovew post suggests then this may be a difficult item to ever identify. |
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Sort of OT...Vintage Football photo ID help...Penn State?/Pennsylvania Normal School?
Posted By: Keith
Glyn, Obviously I'll defer to you as you graduated from there. |
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Sort of OT...Vintage Football photo ID help...Penn State?/Pennsylvania Normal School?
Posted By: CLAUDE
Thanks for all the info. everyone. It's nice to post here and get answers! |
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Sort of OT...Vintage Football photo ID help...Penn State?/Pennsylvania Normal School?
Posted By: Glyn Parson
you could easily be correct as I am going, as was my wife, on information told to us by the same professor so he could have been mistaken. I will however check this out on monday because I have definetly had my curiosity piqued. |
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Sort of OT...Vintage Football photo ID help...Penn State?/Pennsylvania Normal School?
Posted By: CLAUDE
Glyn- Just wondering if you had a chance to research this. |
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