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Old 01-26-2023, 07:30 AM
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Perfect game lost on 27th batter. Doh!!
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Someone ran the numbers on Fernando Tatis's double grand slam inning and it came out to something like 1 in 12 million probability.
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"My baseball people loved Ken Phelps’ bat. They kept saying 'Ken Phelps, Ken Phelps.'"

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Mike Mussina was one strike away from Perfecto in 2001...and melted. Wow.
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Mike Mussina was one strike away from Perfecto in 2001...and melted. Wow.
I wonder if the hitters in these spots have mixed feelings at all after the fact. It's not like you become famous or even remembered for breaking up a perfect game. And the basehit you get could be in a 9-0 game where your team is not coming back. And you have to realize that you are denying a fellow player baseball immortality (and possibly hall of fame, lots of money, a new inflated contract, millions in promotional stuff, etc.) for busting it. I know the short answer is these guys are all fierce competitors and basically are trained to suceed and all that . . . .but I wonder if sometimes you don't feel a bit guilty of denying someone their moment in the sun and think back that maybe you wished it worked out a little differently. Maybe a hard hit ball in the gap that someone runs down instead.
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That is awesome stat page and so many stories and histories within it
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I wonder if the hitters in these spots have mixed feelings at all after the fact. It's not like you become famous or even remembered for breaking up a perfect game. And the basehit you get could be in a 9-0 game where your team is not coming back. And you have to realize that you are denying a fellow player baseball immortality (and possibly hall of fame, lots of money, a new inflated contract, millions in promotional stuff, etc.) for busting it. I know the short answer is these guys are all fierce competitors and basically are trained to suceed and all that . . . .but I wonder if sometimes you don't feel a bit guilty of denying someone their moment in the sun and think back that maybe you wished it worked out a little differently. Maybe a hard hit ball in the gap that someone runs down instead.
I can tell you that Bob Brenly does not approve when a hitter breaks up a perfect game, particularly if they violate the unwritten rules:

https://www.latimes.com/archives/la-...344-story.html

https://mlb.nbcsports.com/2011/05/27...en-davis-bunt/
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I wonder if the hitters in these spots have mixed feelings at all after the fact. It's not like you become famous or even remembered for breaking up a perfect game. And the basehit you get could be in a 9-0 game where your team is not coming back. And you have to realize that you are denying a fellow player baseball immortality (and possibly hall of fame, lots of money, a new inflated contract, millions in promotional stuff, etc.) for busting it. I know the short answer is these guys are all fierce competitors and basically are trained to suceed and all that . . . .but I wonder if sometimes you don't feel a bit guilty of denying someone their moment in the sun and think back that maybe you wished it worked out a little differently. Maybe a hard hit ball in the gap that someone runs down instead.
Other than being remembered for throwing one, a pitcher may get some promotional opportunities, but I don't think a perfect game gets you any of the other things you mentioned. Don Larsen isn't getting into the Hall of Fame and no one's getting a big contract for a perfect game.
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Other than being remembered for throwing one, a pitcher may get some promotional opportunities, but I don't think a perfect game gets you any of the other things you mentioned. Don Larsen isn't getting into the Hall of Fame and no one's getting a big contract for a perfect game.
I dont disagree, but on one night a pitcher was perfect at his craft, and the folks in attendance got to watch that, that's the beauty of baseball that no other sport can offer.
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Mike Mussina was one strike away from Perfecto in 2001...and melted. Wow.
Dave Stieb had no-hitters in consecutive starts broken up after 26 outs in 1988. A year later, he had a perfect game broken up after 26 outs.
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What about HR in last at bat. I know most of us know of one for sure.
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I'd say if a guy is batter No. 27 after 26 consecutive outs for his team and he isn't trying to win the at-bat, then he didn't earn his pay that day. No one should be proud of a perfect game if the OT side, even just the final batter, gave it away.

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Well..I can name 2 that I saw watching my Tigers...Milt Wilcox when I was a whipper snapper...and the Armando Galarraga...who was CRIMINALLY ROBBED
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I was curious about the number of times home plate has been stolen. Turns out home has been stolen much more than I'd thought, which led to further research.

I found out that stealing second, third and home in the same inning is a rare event. It's happened only 26 times. Cobb did it 4 times, but interestingly, Henderson and Brock never pulled off that feat.
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Just wanted to add to this the number 6 for "Lead-Off AND Walk Off Home Run in Same Game by Same Player"

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Other than being remembered for throwing one, a pitcher may get some promotional opportunities, but I don't think a perfect game gets you any of the other things you mentioned. Don Larsen isn't getting into the Hall of Fame and no one's getting a big contract for a perfect game.
Don Larsen probably made millions signing photographs and baseballs his entire life.
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I'd say if a guy is batter No. 27 after 26 consecutive outs for his team and he isn't trying to win the at-bat, then he didn't earn his pay that day. No one should be proud of a perfect game if the OT side, even just the final batter, gave it away.
100% agree. I don't care if it's 16-0. If you can drop a bunt and maybe start a rally, you're OBLIGATED to do it.
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I wonder if the hitters in these spots have mixed feelings at all after the fact. It's not like you become famous or even remembered for breaking up a perfect game. And the basehit you get could be in a 9-0 game where your team is not coming back. And you have to realize that you are denying a fellow player baseball immortality (and possibly hall of fame, lots of money, a new inflated contract, millions in promotional stuff, etc.) for busting it. I know the short answer is these guys are all fierce competitors and basically are trained to suceed and all that . . . .but I wonder if sometimes you don't feel a bit guilty of denying someone their moment in the sun and think back that maybe you wished it worked out a little differently. Maybe a hard hit ball in the gap that someone runs down instead.

Ask a Mets fan who Jimmy Qualls is. His name is forever linked to Tom Seaver.
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