Latest Pickups

[GasHouseGang]

Since we were talking about Tunney, I thought some my like to read the back of his Goudey Sport Kings card.

[Vintagedeputy]

New arrival for my T220 set!

[G1911]

Love to see T220’s for any reason. Good luck on your set chase

[Vintagedeputy]

Originally Posted by G1911

Love to see T220’s for any reason. Good luck on your set chase

Thanks! I'm casually working on this set as inexpensive examples come my way. I'm really not even a boxing fan per se, but the artwork is stellar.

[G1911]

Originally Posted by Vintagedeputy

Thanks! I'm casually working on this set as inexpensive examples come my way. I'm really not even a boxing fan per se, but the artwork is stellar.

That's how I started. I was gifted a lot of random T cards and I liked a lot of the history themed cards in it. There were 7 T220 silvers in it, and I thought they were kind of funky at first. Who wants to collect cards of scantily clad dudes? And now I'm a boxing guy. I collect T42's and know no ornithology. The T card art is just so good, it doesn't matter what the subject is, I've come to collect pretty much all of them.

[Exhibitman]

That's the problem: you see examples of the artwork and you just get hooked on all of the issues.

[Vintagedeputy]

Originally Posted by G1911

That's how I started. I was gifted a lot of random T cards and I liked a lot of the history themed cards in it. There were 7 T220 silvers in it, and I thought they were kind of funky at first. Who wants to collect cards of scantily clad dudes? And now I'm a boxing guy. I collect T42's and know no ornithology. The T card art is just so good, it doesn't matter what the subject is, I've come to collect pretty much all of them.

Similar thing happened to me. Bought a box of T cards from a neighbor. T218, 219, 220 and a bunch of other random T cards.

[Vintagedeputy]

Originally Posted by Exhibitman

That's the problem: you see examples of the artwork and you just get hooked on all of the issues.

They knew what they were doing!

[Exhibitman]

Maybe there's nicotine on the cards?



Reminds me of Robin Williams' old line: I give the pigeons my methadone so they come back.

[G1911]

Here's a pretty T card and new pickup, the Fighting Dentist puts me at 132/250 in the T225-1 set.

[G1911]

133/250

[G1911]

Wolgast on the right is new. A red isn't complete without an orange.

This is almost certainly not an actual printing variation but just damage from exposure, like almost all orange-instead-of-red T and E cards. Still looks different enough to slot it in my set.

[G1911]

Upgraded my T9 Brown.

[Exhibitman]

Originally Posted by G1911

damage from exposure, like almost all orange-instead-of-red T and E cards.

That's an interesting assertion, Greg. Please expand on it.

[G1911]

Originally Posted by Exhibitman

That's an interesting assertion, Greg. Please expand on it.

I'll make a thread so as not to divert this one too far.

[G1911]

4 more down. Progress should start slowing down soon...

[G1911]

4 poster cuts on the left, and some more cards for my master build on the right. Lewis turned out to be an upgrade. 142/250 cards down. T225-1's are not super tough for any of the backs I think, but that there are 10 of them for each subject means that it will take many years for all of the cards to even surface to market.

[G1911]

Was happy to win this 2012 Panini Golden Age. The image short prints were only 2 per case and are hard to find now, doesn't crop up often. The card on right is the SP image variant, the card on left the base. I like picking up the modern renditions of the 19th and early 20th century boxers that appear in the N/T/E sets.

[G1911]

Last pickup of the year unless one of you guys wants to cut down my want list.

T218 Master Set card #626 out of 632 possible (maybe 631, I might be chasing one phantom) now in hand. Was very happy to see this one pop up.

[G1911]

Guess I lied, snuck one good one in before the clock strikes 12. Ketchell, actually Attell, completes my 22 card E75 set. The 2 error cards are pretty tough, was happy to see one come to market.

[G1911]

Broke my c. 1910 focus for this one. I don't know what version it is, there are apparently red mojo, red wave, red refractor, red etc. versions that I can't keep up with and tell the difference between in a picture. 1990 Pro Set Football is one of my favorite sets of all time (great photography, I like the design, so many variations, and so so cheap) and Fury is probably a true great. One of the problems with modern boxing is that most of the cards are rare and pretty ugly or low effort. There are so few well made ones to pick from. I tend to pick up the pugilists from Goodwin, Ginter, and random one-offs like this if they are cheap.

The back gives his record as 30-0-1 but then says that he beat Wilder 3 times. I'm not sure if this is an uncorrected error, or they are passive aggressively acknowledging the obvious instead of a judge's BS

I'm sure I'm not the only one making pick ups. Show 'em folks!

[D. Bergin]

2 French Mags from 1910 featuring Sam Langford and Tom Sharkey on the covers.

Also: a 1955 Swedish non-sports related comic book featuring a great 3 card panel on the back, with Rocky Marciano book-ended by John L. and Corbett.

[mrreality68]

Originally Posted by G1911

Guess I lied, snuck one good one in before the clock strikes 12. Ketchell, actually Attell, completes my 22 card E75 set. The 2 error cards are pretty tough, was happy to see one come to market.

Nice shorts

[mikecala98]

[sthoemke]

Originally Posted by mikecala98

Are the autographs live or printed?

[mikecala98]

Originally Posted by sthoemke

Are the autographs live or printed?

Printed!

[G1911]

I have two 1/1's, the blue and gold variants I think the kids call 'cracked ice', so I looked for others in the rainbow. An Orange Refractor that is not numbered but I think difficult, and a different kind of red refractor numbered to 10. I'm not quite clear how many versions I would need for a rainbow, but if they're dirt cheap I'm picking them up when I see them. Not much to collect in modern boxing. The refractors show up better in photographs in low light

[Writehooks]

Coupla recent arrivals:
- Gunboat Smith vs Georges Carpentier for the World White Heavyweight Championship, July 16, 1914 in London
- Duane Bobick vs Kallie Knoetze for the World White Heavyweight Championship, January 28, 1978 in Johannesburg, South Africa

Always looking for anything on Luther McCarty, Arthur Pelkey and the White Hope era.

[mikecala98]

Love the note on the back. Match took place 9/20/1975 in Philly.



Boyd Pierce mailaway card. Tough to find.

[G1911]

Crossed off another Ogdens, this one from the B series. Love these little cards, collecting the boxers especially but the host of different subject matters makes the Black Ogden's sets a ton of fun to pick up in random lots when they appear.

Mace is a common card, but he was a significant heavyweight and middleweight champion, one of the early scientists of the ring who beat much larger men routinely. He and Mike Donovan toured together after retirement and put on shows intermittently for a number of years promoting scientific boxing. He fought exhibitions at his boxing school in Cape Town and elsewhere into his late 70's.

[Exhibitman]

is that credited as a Wood photo?

[G1911]

Originally Posted by Exhibitman

is that credited as a Wood photo?

Yes it is. Mace has at least 3 Ogdens cards off memory using this same base photo, can’t remember if the other 2 have the Wood credit. No clue if the credit is true or not lol

[CardPadre]

I’ve been wanting to pick up some boxing, but this is the first I’ve actually grabbed. Was a Sullivan, cheap, and with a tolstoi back…so figured would be a good start.

[G1911]

Originally Posted by CardPadre

I’ve been wanting to pick up some boxing, but this is the first I’ve actually grabbed. Was a Sullivan, cheap, and with a tolstoi back…so figured would be a good start.

I like the way you think. Welcome to boxing!

[wicker56]

I haven’t posted here in awhile, but I’m currently going through some recent purchases. I’m pretty fond of this Toneles card, even though the condition is a bit ruff.

[wicker56]

Here’s a couple more recent additions that I’m hoping someone has additional info on. I bought a few of these off of Ebay, but I can’t seem to find much info about them.

[G1911]

I can’t help and don’t recognize these, but that Carnera is really cool.

[wicker56]

Thanks, Greg. The stock used is pretty thin, but almost layered and the image is really strange. I would consider them very delicate.

[G1911]

Originally Posted by wicker56

Thanks, Greg. The stock used is pretty thin, but almost layered and the image is really strange. I would consider them very delicate.

Maybe I'm weird but I always like 'cards with photos that are very uncard-like'. There's so many boxing cards that come up that I've just never seen before still. It doesn't happen much with baseball or football; the percentage of boxing cards that there are few copies of out there is so much higher

[D. Bergin]

According to a few unrelated listings on Ebay, it's a c. 1932 set out of Sweden.

Google translate identifies the set name as "Sport Magazine Picture Gallery"

[wicker56]

Another recent pick up that’s not actually a card, but a coupon for the Turkey Red series. I’m interested in opinions on how common these are. I’ve not come across many.

[G1911]

I’ve seen a number of them but I sure wouldn’t classify them as easy. I believe the 1-76 is more common than the 1-75 version. There’s also a Fez one that’s smaller. I’ve never picked any of them up, but they’re cool. Would go well with a pack and the cards

[wicker56]

Greg, I’m glad you mentioned the size. I was originally thinking this was in a normal 3 X 4 top loader, but your correct, it’s actually larger.

[G1911]

I was surprised when I first saw one in person, I always thought they were really small for some reason.

There's a 1-75 and 1-76 on eBay, and a Fez 1-75 (I assume these 3 BIN's are all excessive). http://t3turkeyred.com/Packaging.html has an image of an Old Mill 1-75 and a 77-126 in the same smaller size as the Fez.

Cool spate of pickups you're on!

[wicker56]

Originally Posted by D. Bergin

According to a few unrelated listings on Ebay, it's a c. 1932 set out of Sweden.

Google translate identifies the set name as "Sport Magazine Picture Gallery"

Dave, thanks for looking. I would agree, looks like they are definitely 1932. It appears they were supposed to go in an album. The checklist that I found online was hand written and appears to have mostly Swedish boxers along with Dempsey and Carnera.

[Exhibitman]

Dave beat me to it on the Swedish cards.

Chad, love the 3 Toneles. I find that series of cards to be an interesting insight into the ebb and flow of Cuban society at the time. First the capitalists tried to pretend they were sympathetic (the earliest premium has "pro agrarian reform" on it), then there was a statis period as shown on your card, then as the Commies tightened the grip and killed professional sports, athletes like Fernandez fled if they could.

[G1911]

My collecting year has been made. I doubt I'll get something as big to me as this pretty much ever. I started my T220 Silver set when I was 12 in Christmas 2003, when my Dad bought me my first 7 boxing cards because they looked cool with the silver borders and he thought I might like them even though they weren't baseball. Probably a mistake, I've been addicted to the T220 Silver's and from there the whole c. 1910 E/T/C card period of boxing ever since. 6,975 days later my favorite set is finally complete, and in spectacular fashion for I completed my first set, my second set, my third set, my fourth set, my fifth set, my sixth set, my seventh set, and my eighth set all at once. It was peak hobby enjoyment to take this box over and open it up with my Dad like we did with my first T220 silvers.

I don’t know how many Corbett’s are out there, I have not tracked them as religiously as I have the 4 Donovans (a lot easier to track, as they have all been discovered during my time in the hobby and in the scan era) but these 8 probably represent around 50-66% of the total population now. PSA has 4 graded, SGC’s registry produces 0 Corbett’s and 0 Donovan’s and just 1-3 of the commons so it is clearly useless still but I don't believe they've ever had one. I've heard of a couple raw ones out there, but rumors aren't photos.

I don't want to out anyone who might want to remain anonymously private but I got a call from the original buyer, who didn't have to do this at all as I have no entitlement to these whatsoever, and structured a deal specifically just to get the Corbett sheet into my silver-loving collection. Even after we discussed bids and valuations, that it might one day be a Graziano type item in an open and properly listed sale, and his original intent to quietly keep it, he offered it to me because reconstructing this sheet is my passion project at a generous price in one heck of a gesture. Not only did he do this great kindness, he then shipped me the sheet immediately before we had even finished the logistics of payment. I've arranged for certain unique items to end up in certain peoples collections because they really care about them, but this is a value range I don't typically even play in at all. Wow!

I will also insert a plug for the remaining 2 panels that have survived to the present. To whoever owns the Randall/Belasco, I will pay you stupid money for it. Same for the Choyinski if its owner ever gets bored of looking at it. And with the Corbett printing proofs, I still need a final production normal Corbett to go along with them. I’m going to keep building some side sets of 23 (One side set I’m doing is fully beaters, trying to find the worst condition examples of each of the 23 base cards I can) of it as it is my favorite release, but I’m almost wrapped up here with as complete a collection as can be made. I’m not aware of any extant oddities I don’t own, but who knows what is out there (hint hint ). Maybe a Jack Goodman really will crop up one day and give me a new white whale.

[wicker56]

Originally Posted by G1911

My collecting year has been made. I doubt I'll get something as big to me as this pretty much ever. I started my T220 Silver set when I was 12 in Christmas 2003, when my Dad bought me my first 7 boxing cards because they looked cool with the silver borders and he thought I might like them even though they weren't baseball. Probably a mistake, I've been addicted to the T220 Silver's and from there the whole c. 1910 E/T/C card period of boxing ever since. 6,975 days later my favorite set is finally complete, and in spectacular fashion for I completed my first set, my second set, my third set, my fourth set, my fifth set, my sixth set, my seventh set, and my eighth set all at once. It was peak hobby enjoyment to take this box over and open it up with my Dad like we did with my first T220 silvers.

I don’t know how many Corbett’s are out there, I have not tracked them as religiously as I have the 4 Donovans (a lot easier to track, as they have all been discovered during my time in the hobby and in the scan era) but these 8 probably represent around 50-66% of the total population now. PSA has 4 graded, SGC’s registry produces 0 Corbett’s and 0 Donovan’s and just 1-3 of the commons so it is clearly useless still but I don't believe they've ever had one. I've heard of a couple raw ones out there, but rumors aren't photos.

I don't want to out anyone who might want to remain anonymously private but I got a call from the original buyer, who didn't have to do this at all as I have no entitlement to these whatsoever, and structured a deal specifically just to get the Corbett sheet into my silver-loving collection. Even after we discussed bids and valuations, that it might one day be a Graziano type item in an open and properly listed sale, and his original intent to quietly keep it, he offered it to me because reconstructing this sheet is my passion project at a generous price in one heck of a gesture. Not only did he do this great kindness, he then shipped me the sheet immediately before we had even finished the logistics of payment. I've arranged for certain unique items to end up in certain peoples collections because they really care about them, but this is a value range I don't typically even play in at all. Wow!

I will also insert a plug for the remaining 2 panels that have survived to the present. To whoever owns the Randall/Belasco, I will pay you stupid money for it. Same for the Choyinski if its owner ever gets bored of looking at it. And with the Corbett printing proofs, I still need a final production normal Corbett to go along with them. I’m going to keep building some side sets of 23 (One side set I’m doing is fully beaters, trying to find the worst condition examples of each of the 23 base cards I can) of it as it is my favorite release, but I’m almost wrapped up here with as complete a collection as can be made. I’m not aware of any extant oddities I don’t own, but who knows what is out there (hint hint ). Maybe a Jack Goodman really will crop up one day and give me a new white whale.

Wow! Very cool story, Greg. Have you decided how you’re going to display them yet? I’m great at buying stuff, but not so much at getting things displayed.

[wicker56]

Originally Posted by Exhibitman

Dave beat me to it on the Swedish cards.

Chad, love the 3 Toneles. I find that series of cards to be an interesting insight into the ebb and flow of Cuban society at the time. First the capitalists tried to pretend they were sympathetic (the earliest premium has "pro agrarian reform" on it), then there was a statis period as shown on your card, then as the Commies tightened the grip and killed professional sports, athletes like Fernandez fled if they could.

Adam, you’ve definitely given these cards a look or two. I had to go back and review the scans in your book after reading your post. Thanks as always for sharing your thoughts.

[G1911]

Originally Posted by wicker56

Wow! Very cool story, Greg. Have you decided how you’re going to display them yet? I’m great at buying stuff, but not so much at getting things displayed.

If you ever figure out the secret to organization and display, please give me a call and share it .

I keep a series of spreadsheets cataloguing checklists and what I do and don't have, and then another cataloguing my boxing collection in its entirety. It's a lot easier to keep that sorted than the cards. I keep them all in boxes that I try to keep organized and labelled, and then a box on my work desk of my recent pickups I add in to their proper place every month or so. Still I somehow to always end up finding another box of random T cards somewhere I'd forgotten about and needs to be sorted in.

I want to, if I ever succeed in reconstructing the sheet, to get it framed up with all the panels in their original layout next to each other. I'm a little worried about display and that the vibrant red may fade with light exposure as T card red ink is wont to do, need to do deeper research into my options and just how safe they really are. Might also just make or (or pay someone good at photoshop) to recreate this sheet with the missing McAuliffe and Ryan spots and then print up as a reprint poster in the original full size to safely hang on the wall.