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Old 05-09-2011, 11:20 AM
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Default Show or tell us of your T216 KOTTON cards

I will start this show with my 1914 (or 1915) issued T216 card of Hal Chase.



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Old 05-09-2011, 12:02 PM
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Got the Wagner last week, and the Bender should be arriving in the mail today:



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There are quite a few currently listed on ebay... both SGC and PSA including HOFers.
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Here are a few....
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Default Ted, please sell me your Chase portrait

1911-16 Kotton Cigarettes T216
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There are quite a few currently listed on ebay... both SGC and PSA including HOFers.
Wow, imagine that.
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Picked this up back in '01 when I was just getting into collecting vintage, and eBay was in its heyday. I knew nothing about the issue, just pulled it up in a search for Speaker cards. The color, the pose, and the simple beauty of the card grabbed my attention. My only T216, and my favorite card of Tris Speaker (the E90-1 Speaker is a pretty nice card, too, but I haven't found one yet ).
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And another Speaker (my only Kotton):
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Old 05-11-2011, 07:02 AM
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Default Jeff Lichtman.....please email me.

Our Hal Chase cards.....with the KOTTON back variations.....simply perfect together
[linked image][linked image]1911-16 Kotton Cigarettes T216



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Now wait a Kotton pickin minute... Fantastic cards fellas ! Bruce, that Matty is spectacular and I am a little partial to the Fed league Kotton's like Jeff's Chase, etc. --- Simply a cool grouping of cards
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Here is a type two(factory 4) Bresnahan......I know the type 3(Kotton Cigarettes never go out no factroy number) are described as being rarer but I have fewer Factory 4 than the other two types. Anybody else feel the same way??
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Old 05-12-2011, 08:09 AM
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I tend to agree with you that the Factory 4 version of the KOTTON backs appears to be somewhat less available than the other two back versions.

Perhaps, the No Factory version (Type 3) has been considered "rarer" because these KOTTON cards were printed on thinner stock.

And of course, the Factory 11 (Type 1) and Factory 4 (Type 1) cards were printed on thicker stock and have glossy fronts.

Anyhow, that's my take on these 3 back variations.


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Only recently have some of the thinner series come out in more quantities. I have been watching these for my whole 15 yrs of collecting as an adult. My observation is that the paper thin ones are quite a bit scarcer than the other two varieties. The Factory 4's are in fact the most commonly seen followed by the Factory 11. My thought is that it does in fact have to do with the very thin stock they (Kotton-Never Go Out) are printed on. That's just my (quite studied) observation. Of course others could have observed things differently. I think it took me 3-4 yrs to find my first thin stock one. For my own record I classify them from easiest to more difficult as type 1 (Fact. 4), type 2 (Fact.11) and type 3 (Never Go Out)....best regards
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Old 05-13-2011, 11:55 AM
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Great card and my favorite Matty picture. Thanx for sharing it with us.


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My type cards.
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Buffalo Feds Engle : (Just picked this one up raw this month & returned from SGC)
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Just got this McGraw - very pleased with it:
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Nice card Blair.
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Old 11-03-2011, 05:39 AM
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Really nice card for the grade.
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Thanks, Mike!

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Really nice card for the grade.
Hi Pete,

Great Wagner...focus/registration is really nice. And it is cool to have a Wagner T-card!

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Here's my only one, I wouldn't mind picking up some more.
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Hi Mike,

Very nice! My favorite Bender pose. I don't have that T216, but I have the same pose on Dockman, Croft's Cocoa, and E106.

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Thanks Blair, I like the Bender pose as well. There are several from this set of fronts that I like.

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1911-16 Kotton Cigarettes T216 Fielding
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For anyone looking for Kottons, there are 48 of them in the current Goodwin auction - each is an individual lot. I am curious as to what kind of prices they will bring, inasmuch as the market is being flooded, so to speak.
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