NonSports Forum

Net54baseball.com
Welcome to Net54baseball.com. These forums are devoted to both Pre- and Post- war baseball cards and vintage memorabilia, as well as other sports. There is a separate section for Buying, Selling and Trading - the B/S/T area!! If you write anything concerning a person or company your full name needs to be in your post or obtainable from it. . Contact the moderator at leon@net54baseball.com should you have any questions or concerns. When you click on links to eBay on this site and make a purchase, this can result in this site earning a commission. Affiliate programs and affiliations include, but are not limited to, the eBay Partner Network. Enjoy!
Net54baseball.com
Net54baseball.com
T206s on eBay
Babe Ruth Cards on eBay
t206 Ty Cobb on eBay
Ty Cobb Cards on eBay
Lou Gehrig Cards on eBay
Baseball T201-T217 on eBay
Baseball E90-E107 on eBay
T205 Cards on eBay
Baseball Postcards on eBay
Goudey Cards on eBay
Baseball Memorabilia on eBay
Baseball Exhibit Cards on eBay
Baseball Strip Cards on eBay
Baseball Baking Cards on eBay
Sporting News Cards on eBay
Play Ball Cards on eBay
Joe DiMaggio Cards on eBay
Mickey Mantle Cards on eBay
Bowman 1951-1955 on eBay
Football Cards on eBay

Go Back   Net54baseball.com Forums > Net54baseball Main Forum - WWII & Older Baseball Cards > Net54baseball Sports (Primarily) Vintage Memorabilia Forum incl. Game Used

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
  #1  
Old 08-06-2013, 01:27 PM
BigJJ BigJJ is offline
J0n Fu.ld
 
Join Date: May 2012
Posts: 613
Default Brandon - Thank you for writing and compiling the Baseball Guides!

Brandon,
You have saved me days of my life, maybe weeks of my life, in due diligence when buying autographed balls. $50 a set is not enough to compensate you for the tremendous number of hours, and as Im not giving you more money I thought public praise might better even out the exchange.
Doesn't SABR have an award for baseball research, you deserve it! We need SABR members to put in a good word. and a big thank you again.
Best,
Jon
Reply With Quote
  #2  
Old 08-06-2013, 02:36 PM
thecatspajamas's Avatar
thecatspajamas thecatspajamas is offline
L@nce Fit.tro
Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2010
Location: Franklin, TN
Posts: 2,433
Default

+500
__________________
Ebay Store and Weekly Auctions
Web Store with better selection and discounts
Polite corrections for unidentified and misidentified photos appreciated. Rude corrections also appreciated, but less so.
Reply With Quote
  #3  
Old 08-06-2013, 02:54 PM
Kawika's Avatar
Kawika Kawika is offline
David McDonald
Member
 
Join Date: May 2009
Location: British Siberia
Posts: 2,757
Default

Brandon: It was a real pleasure to meet you in Chicago and to talk story. Although I am not a ball collector I am happy to add your volumes to my baseball library and I commend you for doing an excellent job. I also tip my hat to you for taking the high road when the Little Women of CSI:Net 54 defamed your credibility recently. Any one of you who had the opportunity to meet with Brandon for even a minute would learn that he is a four-square guy. Best to you and your gal.

Aloha-
David McDonald

Last edited by Kawika; 08-06-2013 at 08:24 PM. Reason: names
Reply With Quote
  #4  
Old 08-06-2013, 03:08 PM
bobfreedman bobfreedman is offline
Member
 
Join Date: May 2009
Posts: 1,153
Default Awesome

Brandon, awesome job, please meail me when you get a chance. Thanks
Reply With Quote
  #5  
Old 08-06-2013, 05:26 PM
slidekellyslide's Avatar
slidekellyslide slidekellyslide is offline
Dan Bretta
Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2009
Location: Lincoln, Nebraska
Posts: 6,122
Default

NM...best left as is.
__________________
Looking for Nebraska Indians memorabilia, photos and postcards

Last edited by slidekellyslide; 08-06-2013 at 05:33 PM.
Reply With Quote
  #6  
Old 08-07-2013, 05:30 PM
Mr. Mitt's Avatar
Mr. Mitt Mr. Mitt is offline
Jerry
Jer.ry Fic.chi
 
Join Date: Apr 2009
Posts: 172
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Kawika View Post
Brandon: It was a real pleasure to meet you in Chicago and to talk story. Although I am not a ball collector I am happy to add your volumes to my baseball library and I commend you for doing an excellent job. I also tip my hat to you for taking the high road when the Little Women of CSI:Net 54 defamed your credibility recently. Any one of you who had the opportunity to meet with Brandon for even a minute would learn that he is a four-square guy. Best to you and your gal.

Aloha-
David McDonald


That’s great snooping, David! The name you provided (and later deleted) matches up perfectly with a prior username for this eBay seller of replica autographed balls. You supplied another piece to the puzzle, thank you!

On behalf of the Little Women, I’d like to officially welcome you into the CSI:Net 54 family. Your badge is in the mail.


Jerry F!cch!
Attached Images
File Type: jpg untitled2.jpg (66.8 KB, 263 views)
File Type: jpg untitled3.jpg (32.2 KB, 264 views)
Reply With Quote
  #7  
Old 08-07-2013, 11:35 PM
Kawika's Avatar
Kawika Kawika is offline
David McDonald
Member
 
Join Date: May 2009
Location: British Siberia
Posts: 2,757
Default

Real cute, Jerry.
I stand by what I wrote. Brandon got himself a good old fashioned Net54 blanket party. I have been on this Board since 2004 and have witnessed so many people get mobbed, treated unkindly whether deserved or not. Adam Moraine, Peter Chao, the little kid Sean, later Bill Hedin and Adrian to name a few. And let's not forget the late, great Bruce Dorskind whom people used to tell that no one would go to his funeral when he passed away, except he died and now you're all falling over yourselves eulogizing him. Give me a f***g break. I am not interested in your "detective" work, and I am not going to revisit the "case" against Brandon. I met him in Chicago, I had a cordial conversation with him and I took his measure. I don't think he is the devious perp "with zero credibility" that he was made out to be. These flames-out-the-ass threads have gotten real old and is why I don't post much at Net54 anymore. Some of you folks are real jerks.

Last edited by Leon; 08-08-2013 at 07:46 PM. Reason: took out f bomb
Reply With Quote
  #8  
Old 08-08-2013, 02:02 AM
BrandonG's Avatar
BrandonG BrandonG is offline
Brandon M. Grunbaum
Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2011
Location: Newport Beach, CA
Posts: 230
Default

First off, to those of you I met while at the National: I had a great time meeting you, our conversations were sincere, and I was not lying about any of the current circumstances. I hope you now understand why I had to keep things more private, and why this whole situation was so difficult and frustrating for me, because it was extremely personal as I was very concerned about my fiancé and her name being brought up to a public forum of strangers. I hope that you guys whom I now consider friends, understand that would do anything to protect her, including having to leave some details out. In this situation, a figured it would be better for me to take the heat, as in the long run, it’s my involvement in the hobby that brought her in to the whole situation.

I fought really adamantly on here to not reveal every single circumstance or detail because I wanted to protect my fiancé’s name and was worried about this very moment, when her name might be brought up. I was also painfully aware at how certain people on this forum are more concerned with tearing others down, and when the first thread popped up, I was concerned that any connection of me to reproductions could affect how my genuine research was received. And after pouring myself into this research and work, I was fearful. But now that we are at this point, it’s time to explain a few things and move on.

First off, I am 30 years old, I’ve got $700.00 in my account, and this hobby is not my life. I’m a recently laid off pilot due to the economy, just trying to get by. 4-5 years ago when I was a broke 25 year old, I was a small time baseball collector, the guy everyone on here laughs at when we over pay for generic crap. I collected Angels stuff, and had no idea who PSA, JSA, or Net54 was, and didn’t really care. I always wanted a Babe Ruth signed baseball, but couldn’t afford even the lowest grade of ball. So like a typical dumb newbie collector, I purchased a replica on eBay and put it on my shelf. A good friend of mine saw it and had some ideas of how we could make a better one and I thought why not, it will just be on my shelf anyway. The ball we made came out very nice (we thought at the time, but knowing what I know today, it was obviously junk) so we decided to put a couple up on eBay. Some of you remember they sold very well. To me, they were like art, a neat fantasy piece. After selling maybe 5-10 over 2 months or so someone contacted us with a very negative attitude towards these replicas, and how they could potentially affect the hobby. I understood where this person was coming from, but respectfully disagreed that these could ever be passed as genuine. To this day, I have never seen one of the replicas I was connected with sold as genuine, and that includes never seeing one sold on Coaches Corner. The balls were always made on brand new Rawlings baseballs, the stamping was always slightly altered, the size was much smaller, and it wasn’t a pen signature, it was ink jet printing, one look with a close eye and you can see they were a spray pattern of 4 color ink. These baseballs would never pass any type of TPA. For all of those reasons I was never concerned with the sales. However, the listings always disclosed that they were replicas, and in most of the sales we even included a disclaimer saying if I ever saw one of ours up sold as genuine, I would take proper action against them. Over time other sellers began creating their own replicas, and if I ever saw wrong doing with those, I would report them directly to eBay as well.

When I became a member of the forum, I then began my research into vintage baseballs to create my own chronological collection. The info wasn’t available, so through my desire to learn, I began my History of the Baseball project. I never intended to publish any work, I never wanted to be the guy to go to for the info, but it just fell into my lap because I apparently was the only one willing to piece all this info together in a complete way. I began to distance myself from the reproductions, and simply sold a few here and there to pay my phone bill, and put gas in the car. My girlfriend at the time, who is now my fiancé, listed the majority on her account for me and my friend. I honestly never thought that replicas were a bad thing. These weren’t forgeries, they weren’t on vintage baseballs, and they didn’t sell for thousands in auction houses. To me, it was the same thing as a reprint T3, or simply an artistic fantasy piece for the regular guy. I even had older gentlemen from Australia email me thanking me as if I’d just saved his life. All he ever wanted was a Ruth ball on his shelf next to some other Ruth photos and memorabilia, he even sent me a photo. After seeing the hundreds of other replicas go up on eBay, still to this day (and in fact, our sales are dwarfed in comparison to other eBay sellers who are still listing replicas), and forum members not seeming to care anymore, the one or two that got listed from us didn’t seem like that big of a deal. In actuality, I stopped helping produce them, and my fiancé would just list the few our friend made to get rid of the ones we had left. In the last year, I even told our ex partner that we were done with them, and it was time for us to start a new chapter trying to write the book. Myself and our ex partner shared the original eBay account, everything I said about that was true, I screwed my credit with PayPal, and sharing didn’t seem like a big deal. Perhaps some of this sharing eBay and PayPal accounts seems strange, but it was simply out of convienence at the time. There was no way I could know at the time that in a couple years I would be in a place to put out a guide. As stated in the original thread, this was perhaps a mistake, a lapse in judgment on my part, and here I am paying for it 100 times more than I feel I deserve.

The ball that started the original thread was meant to match a Harridge all-star ball that I photographed at the HOF. It was a fill in for a ball I had never seen, and couldn’t obtain images of, for a game used section of the book that was more story-telling than identifying a ball. The pictures were never used in the end, and the ball isn’t in the guides. We have gone over that, and everything I said was true. I didn’t want to reveal any names because of personal reasons with my fiancé, and undeserved harassment on her end, and I didn’t want to give his name because of business reasons. I don’t need to be sued or threatened, or lose money over something like this. When all is said and done, that ball never sold; I made sure of that, as explained. I got it back and was waiting to destroy it because I knew forum members would want some video evidence or some crap like that.

So there’s my life story in the memorabilia world, it spans about 5 years, and yeah, maybe some decisions were poor, but I never broke the law, and I made damn sure others didn’t either. And whether you like replicas or not, without my participation with them, I would never have the knowledge I have now. There are so many asshole criminals in this industry, ripping people off for millions of dollars, and I will NOT be associated with them. And it’s asinine that some of you are trying to do this. You may like me, you may not, but I won’t let libel and slanderous accusations continue against me, nor my fiancé. I was at the National and met some extremely genuine, polite, and great guys, who had the balls to speak with me, even if they didn’t agree with everything. The few of you that hide behind the keyboard are not men, are not tough, and take pleasure in playing games with other people’s feelings and emotions. I’m tired of this forum, I’m genuinely tired of having to worry about what nonsense people say about me and the people who defend me on this forum. When it comes down to it, this is not my life, I haven’t made a profit selling baseballs, vintage or reproduction. I did all this research and put these guides out because I love baseball, I love history, and I wanted to help people with the knowledge I’ve obtained. In releasing these guides, I just gave every person the ability to gain my knowledge, everything that made me unique. I don’t have to date stuff anymore, everyone can be the expert now. These guides cost thousands to print, and it will take me years to get back the money I just dropped on them.

My friends on here: don’t waste your time and emotion replying to the nonsense. Let’s be bigger men. I’m done here, and I’d rather people who visit this forum read threads that actual mean things and help the hobby. Email me, call me, I will talk for hours with you about baseball, as you probably noticed at the National. But not here, not any longer. And for those of you who I know will respond with petty, sarcastic, snide, and unfounded remarks to further hurt my feelings and reputation (as I can only assume that is your goal), you can’t imaging how hard it was for me to hold my tongue against you, but out of my respect for Leon after meeting him in Chicago, and my sincere respect for the guys I hung out with who come one here for civil discourse and information (you know who you are) I have written this as politely as I could handle. If you have something to say, say it to me directly, not these other guys. My email and phone number are publicly available. There’s no conspiracy here to uncover: just a 20-something year old interested in baseballs, who tried to make a few bucks on the side (legally, mind you), and became an expert on vintage baseballs almost on accident.
__________________
History of the Baseball Official National & American League Base Ball Guides now available! Here
Reply With Quote
  #9  
Old 08-08-2013, 08:31 AM
Mr. Mitt's Avatar
Mr. Mitt Mr. Mitt is offline
Jerry
Jer.ry Fic.chi
 
Join Date: Apr 2009
Posts: 172
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Kawika View Post
Real cute, Jerry.
Thanks, being a Little Woman, it's just assumed I'm cute.
Reply With Quote
  #10  
Old 08-08-2013, 07:47 PM
Leon's Avatar
Leon Leon is online now
Leon
peasant/forum owner
 
Join Date: Mar 2009
Location: near Dallas
Posts: 34,916
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Kawika View Post
Real cute, Jerry.
I stand by what I wrote. Brandon got himself a good old fashioned Net54 blanket party. I have been on this Board since 2004 and have witnessed so many people get mobbed, treated unkindly whether deserved or not. Adam Moraine, Peter Chao, the little kid Sean, later Bill Hedin and Adrian to name a few. And let's not forget the late, great Bruce Dorskind whom people used to tell that no one would go to his funeral when he passed away, except he died and now you're all falling over yourselves eulogizing him. Give me a f***g break. I am not interested in your "detective" work, and I am not going to revisit the "case" against Brandon. I met him in Chicago, I had a cordial conversation with him and I took his measure. I don't think he is the devious perp "with zero credibility" that he was made out to be. These flames-out-the-ass threads have gotten real old and is why I don't post much at Net54 anymore. Some of you folks are real jerks.
This board isn't for thin skinned collectors. There are some jerks on the board but most are good guys. Happy collecting.
__________________
Leon Luckey
Reply With Quote
  #11  
Old 08-06-2013, 08:09 PM
brupps139 brupps139 is offline
Ben Rupp
member
 
Join Date: Feb 2012
Location: Orlando, FL
Posts: 6
Default Incredible base ball resource!

Brandon, the guides are amazing! Full of incredibly helpful details and photos that I can greatly appreciate being a base ball collector myself. You just don't come across these baseballs and this knowledge in a week or two or for that matter even a year or two. I can tell that the quality of research and information layed out took many years to compile and format into an invaluable resource! Thanks again for sharing your passion with us and for your continued expertise in the world of base ball collecting.
Reply With Quote
Reply




Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is On

Forum Jump

Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
History of the Baseball Official Baseball Guides! BrandonG Net54baseball Sports (Primarily) Vintage Memorabilia Forum incl. Game Used 19 07-30-2013 08:01 AM
Spalding Baseball Guides Archive Net54baseball Sports (Primarily) Vintage Memorabilia Forum incl. Game Used 12 10-01-2008 12:42 PM
Brandon Phillips autographed game-used bat and baseball Archive Baseball Memorabilia B/S/T 1 07-06-2008 01:22 PM
Baseball Guides Archive Net54baseball Vintage (WWII & Older) Baseball Cards & New Member Introductions 2 06-12-2006 11:35 PM
looking for baseball guides Archive Baseball Memorabilia B/S/T 0 05-25-2006 12:58 PM


All times are GMT -6. The time now is 08:08 AM.


ebay GSB