Announcing the PWCC Marketplace Tenets

[Exhibitman]

If you pull the other leg it plays "Jingle Bells."

Come on, Brent, if you can't even say the name of the Lord Voldemort "who has a proven track record of consistently hurting trust in the marketplace, the brand of PWCC, or the reputations of the grading companies" then your proclamation is as feckless as all the previous ones. You want to be taken seriously, then cough up the name and a list of all cards he's consigned to you, and let's start seeing buy-backs, starting with Tony if he was a victim of this fraud.

The ball is in your court: let's see if you have a pair.

[Peter_Spaeth]

Is it only one?

[calvindog]

Originally Posted by Exhibitman

You want to be taken seriously, then cough up the name and a list of all cards he's consigned to you, and let's start seeing buy-backs, starting with Tony if he was a victim of this fraud.

You're going to need a Grand Jury subpoena to get that info. His latest flailing attempt to stop the onrushing train is his claim that he's turning over a new new leaf (as opposed to his old new leaf). Didn't work for Doug and Bill, it's not going to work for Brent.

[Peter_Spaeth]

Originally Posted by calvindog

You're going to need a Grand Jury subpoena to get that info. His latest flailing attempt to stop the onrushing train is his claim that he's turning over a new new leaf (as opposed to his old new leaf). Didn't work for Doug and Bill, it's not going to work for Brent.

Unintended irony I assume, but of course many 1948 (1949) Leafs were identified on the Blowout threads as having been altered and then auctioned by PWCC.

[calvindog]

Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth

Unintended irony I assume, but of course many 1948 (1949) Leafs were identified on the Blowout threads as having been altered and then auctioned by PWCC.

So what you're saying is that he's turning over a new new new Leaf?

[frankbmd]

I have a rake you can borrow.

[Peter_Spaeth]

Originally Posted by frankbmd

I have a rake you can borrow.

By the time this plays out a shovel may be more appropriate.

[Fuddjcal]

Originally Posted by calvindog

So what you're saying is that he's turning over a new new new Leaf?

Yeah, he's turning over a new leaf to soak and trim it again. My guess is 50% of all the stuff he is selling is trimmed and he and everyone knows it.

I too would like to see a list of the losers he is dealing with and that he has kicked out before I have 1% trust in PWCC and their vault LOLOLOL

[Peter_Spaeth]

Originally Posted by Fuddjcal

Yeah, he's turning over a new leaf to soak and trim it again. My guess is 50% of all the stuff he is selling is trimmed and he and everyone knows it.

I too would like to see a list of the losers he is dealing with and that he has kicked out before I have 1% trust in PWCC and their vault LOLOLOL

Apparently we are just supposed to take him at his word, and as to the cards sold into the marketplace over the past however long it's been now, from these bad sources, it's up to us to figure that out. That's how I read it anyhow.

[Fuddjcal]

Originally Posted by calvindog

You're going to need a Grand Jury subpoena to get that info. His latest flailing attempt to stop the onrushing train is his claim that he's turning over a new new leaf (as opposed to his old new leaf). Didn't work for Doug and Bill, it's not going to work for Brent.

We can only hope my handsome friend...

[Leon]

If I recall correctly, they said they were turning over a new leaf and then went right back to doing the same things (or more)? I think Doug was directly quoted from this forum, by an authority we know....at a Dinner I was at. And almost each and every thing Doug said he would do, he ended up not doing. It was kind of funny hearing it in person by the person who was instrumental in putting him behind bars. We all owe a debt of gratitude to SA Brusokas.

Originally Posted by calvindog

You're going to need a Grand Jury subpoena to get that info. His latest flailing attempt to stop the onrushing train is his claim that he's turning over a new new leaf (as opposed to his old new leaf). Didn't work for Doug and Bill, it's not going to work for Brent.

[Peter_Spaeth]

Originally Posted by Leon

If I recall correctly, they said they were turning over a new leaf and then went right back to doing the same things (or more)? I think Doug was directly quoted from this forum, by an authority we know....at a Dinner I was at. And almost each and every thing Doug said he would do, he ended up not doing. It was kind of funny hearing it in person by the person who was instrumental in putting him behind bars. We all a debt of gratitude to SA Brusokas.

Yeah he put in that Code of Conduct and then apparently proceeded to ignore it. That's why, without much more disclosure and a verification mechanism, the current promises don't (to me anyhow) mean that much.

[calvindog]

Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth

Yeah he put in that Code of Conduct and then apparently proceeded to ignore it. That's why, without much more disclosure and a verification mechanism, the current promises don't (to me anyhow) mean that much.

The current promises are meaningless on the issue of prosecuting past fraud.

[peterose4hof]

I've never consigned with PWCC. Do they guarantee their consignors anonymity as part of their terms of service?

If so, the only way they are releasing any sort of list of consignors with a history of submitting altered items or a list of the altered items themselves is with a court order.

[Peter_Spaeth]

Originally Posted by peterose4hof

I've never consigned with PWCC. Do they guarantee their consignors anonymity as part of their terms of service?

If so, the only way they are releasing any sort of list of consignors with a history of submitting altered items or a list of the altered items themselves is with a court order.

They won't do it even if it's not in any formal agreement with consignors, IMO. But one can hope.

[Fuddjcal]

Originally Posted by Exhibitman

If you pull the other leg it plays "Jingle Bells."

Come on, Brent, if you can't even say the name of the Lord Voldemort "who has a proven track record of consistently hurting trust in the marketplace, the brand of PWCC, or the reputations of the grading companies" then your proclamation is as feckless as all the previous ones. You want to be taken seriously, then cough up the name and a list of all cards he's consigned to you, and let's start seeing buy-backs, starting with Tony if he was a victim of this fraud.

The ball is in your court: let's see if you have a pair.

A pair he has not. I just want more stickers....forget integrity.