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Old 09-28-2021, 08:31 PM
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Default Hobby Myths!

There are surely many hobby myths.

Here are a few:

"i don't like the E91 sets because of the "generic" drawings."

Actually the E91A set reflects actual players, and the B and C sets simply use those images and change players names from the A set.

"Orange borders can be found only in Series 3 cards."

Actually Orange borders can be found in other series including Series 1 and 6.

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Harold Baines is in the Hall of Fame. Wait.....
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T206 Wagners are super rare.
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SGC is worth as much as PSA.

(Just poking the bear, I love SGC up to 10% of my collection).
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T206 Wagner is his rarest tobacco card.
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The 1952 Topps Mantle is his (ahem) ROOKIE CARD!!!!!!!
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1939-47 Salutations Exhibits are separate from the 1947-66 Exhibits and were issued during those years.





1948 HOF Exhibits were issued in 1948.

1948-52 Champions Exhibits and 1948-52 Football Exhibits were issued in those years.



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The 1933 Goudey is Ruth's rookie.
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The TPGs are infallible, and when you see a grade on a flip you know it has to be the rock-solid truth.
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In Canada, it's this:

O-Pee-Chee cards were cut with WIRES!
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A couple of my recent favorites...

-Probstein shill bids their own auctions.

-PSA's grading standards haven't changed in recent years.
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Snowman- try this myth: PSA actually HAS standards that they honor

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52 Topps high numbers were dumped in the ocean 🤣
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52 Topps high numbers were dumped in the ocean 🤣
Is this not true??? Have I fallen for this the whole time? I thought they are still in the Atlantic.
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The 1933 Goudey is Ruth's rookie.
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52 Topps high numbers were dumped in the ocean 🤣
I thought it was the Hudson river?
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According to TPGs all W cards are hand cut (maybe minus w600).

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E282 Oh Boy Gum is an E card.
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I agree. When someone quotes vcp I tell them to buy it there.
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T206 Wagner is his rarest tobacco card.
While I know there are a number of issues with single and low double digit pops that are significantly more rare than T206, I find it interesting that even a "mainstream" issue like the 1914 Cracker Jack is close!

T206 Wagner:
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1914 Cracker Jack Wagner
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GM left the hobby.
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"L@@K" and "Read Below" actually make people do those things instead of immediately abandon the auction.
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That the 1948 Leaf set was issued in 1948.
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That it's still a hobby and not a business.
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That there is a baseball produced prior to 1995 that is not signed by Bob Feller or Buck O’Neil
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Someone cracking and resubmitting a graded card doesn't affect the population report.
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I've seen some say versions of this: That players' card prices are proportional to the skill of the player, so if the numbers say player A (maybe Henry Aaron) was as good or better than player B (Mantle?), then if his cards aren't the same price, they are "undervalued."
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1.) It's possible to buy cards that you want when you want to and keep a healthy marriage.



2.) Kevin Maas is the next big star.



3.) Players' Autographs - even purchased in-person, are worth just as much if NOBODY can read the name.
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Thousands of new collectors who instantly spend five and six figures on cards have just entered the hobby during COVID.
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Anyone remember Brien Taylor, the next Yankees superstar?
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The existence of Lester Bell in the Goudey R309-2 set.
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That's interesting, I thought they were just torn apart.
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Chicks really dig T206 collectors.
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That big name Hall of Famers are the most aesthetically pleasing cards in each set.

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The first card of a player, designated his Rookie Card, should be worth more than all others.
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N28, picturing Clarkson with Boston, a deal made in April of 1888, remains frequently listed as an 1887 set. Tons of dates on old sets are complete fiction.
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Johannes Peter Wagner
Occasionally referred to as "Hans"

Somehow, people call him HO-niss

His T206 card, according to myth, was pulled from production because he balked at the idea of his image being used to sell tobacco.
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287. Slyopic (also Glaucomedy)
The utilization of ‘at signs’ to imitate eyes and form the word “L@@K” in an auction title.
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Having a card listed at a ridiculously exorbitant, usurious eBay price and thinking that offering a 5% OFF 'discount' (yes, that's air quotes) to watchers will lead to a sale.
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Johannes Peter Wagner
Occasionally referred to as "Hans"

Somehow, people call him HO-niss

His T206 card, according to myth, was pulled from production because he balked at the idea of his image being used to sell tobacco.
It is interesting. One of the all-time greats & even today, people don't know how to pronounce his name.
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The dog ate my baseball cards!
And I would add Cal Ripkin, as well as Feller and O'Neil, to the happy signers club.
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And I would add Cal Ripkin, as well as Feller and O'Neil, to the happy signers club.
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1.) It's possible to buy cards that you want when you want to and keep a healthy marriage.
It's definitely possible. My wife couldn't care less which cards I buy or how much I spend on them. She'll even sign for the deliveries and puts them in the safe for me. I left a 33 Goudey Babe Ruth on the counter the other day. She picked it up and said, "this one looks old. Is he good?"

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I'm not sure if you are joking or not, but I would take the over on there being at least 20,000 new collectors who joined the hobby over the past 2 years who have spend at least five figures on cards. And it wouldn't shock me at all if the true number was much higher. Unless you're talking specifically about pre-war collectors only, then the numbers would be a lot lower obviously. But there are a ton of new collectors on the modern side. Hell, I'd wager good money that there are at least 1,000 new collectors who have spent 5 figures on cards since the pandemic who aren't even old enough to drive a car yet.
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That is truth...not a myth.
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- That autographed vintage cards are authentic if/when slabbed by PSA
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I fixed the thread title for you...

Hobby Myths Complaints!
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Based on Some Ebay Sellers

An Authentic Reproduction is Authentic
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