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Old 04-23-2024, 04:46 AM
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Default 1965 Topps Series 6 semi-high Sheet Reconstruction

Series 6 from 1965 had 77 cards in the series, so SPs exist. Reconstruction of the slits will be exceptionally difficult because significant miscuts are scarce. However, there are some available, so I am trying anyway.

Here is some additional information in case anyone wants to chime in.

From what I can tell, Topps used the following pattern for the locations of the checklists in each series:

Check 1 (both versions) were in C11
Check 2 was always in C2 (both 1st & 2nd series printing)
Check 3 was always in C11 (both 2nd & 3ed series printing)
Check 4 was always in C2 (both 3rd & 4th series printing)
Check 5 was always in C11 (both 4th & 5th series printing)
Check 6 was in C2 (5th series printing)
Check 7 was in C11 (7th series)

So, I would expect Series 6 (# 443) to be in Col 2 while Series 7 (508) to be in Col 11 for the 6th series printing.

I think the series 6 (443) printing variation has the nearly complete m in #481 (series 5 printing of 443 has the mostly cut off m). The series 6 printing of series 7 checklist (508) should be the larger print version.

And here are a couple of miscuts, offered as a tease.

1965_451_MC.jpg

1965_482_Priddy_above_Owens.jpg

1965_485_Fox_bottom_edge.jpg

1965_Banks_V475_510.jpg
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Old 04-23-2024, 04:49 AM
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Default 1965 series 6 Boyer

As can be seen, Boyer is most likely above two different cards, Banks and another with a black border.

Topps did use a team-related coloring scheme in 1965 for the borders.
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Old 06-22-2024, 10:20 PM
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I didn't know JollyElm (Darren) had a horizontally severe miscut 1965 Topps 6th Series Ernie Banks, the card to the left of Banks is Gene Freese who is definitely a 3x because of his low quantities on eBay and elsewhere. That makes the 1965 Ernie Banks a SP (3x). It will be nearly impossible to ever figure out the 1965 6th Series 77 card layout but it would be nice to at least figure out if the key cards (Carlton, Banks, Mathews) are 3x or 4x.
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Old 06-23-2024, 04:53 AM
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Default 1985 Topps series 6

Here is 453, Dodgers RS, next to 506, Mele

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Old 06-23-2024, 03:46 PM
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I don't believe I was even aware of this thread, but wouldn't have been much help anyway, because I forgot I had that Banks miscut in an album page somewhere.

It's cool that you found it and it helps a bit with the sheet layout mystery.
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Old 06-30-2024, 09:31 PM
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#486 Angels Rookie Stars has a dark green border card to its left which means that is has to be a Brave or a Red Sox card. In the 1965 6th Series there are Geiger, Braves Rookie Stars (Niekro), O'Dell, Woodward, Ritchie, E Mathews, Red Sox Rookie Star (Guindon), and Cloninger. The card to the left of the #486 Angels Rookie Stars miscut has a design flaw where the white bio/stat box has the white jutting out in the bottom left corner. I checked all eight cards and all Cloninger cards have the same design flaw, none of the other seven cards have the design flaw. That means there is a sequence of Nellie Fox-Tony Cloninger-Angels Rookie Stars on one of the 4x rows.
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#477 Cardinals Rookie Stars (Steve Carlton) has Manny Mota to its left, since #463 Manny Mota is definitely a 4x because of its quantities on eBay and elsewhere that makes #477 Cardinals Rookie Stars a 4x as I suspected because of its quantities available. That means of the three 1965 6th Series key cards, Ernie Banks is a 3x, Cardinals Rookie Stars is a 4x, and Eddie Mathews is very likely a 3x although it isn't confirmed yet. ETA of the other two key cards, Yogi Berra’s last card and Phil Niekro’s second year card, I am pretty sure Berra is a 3x and Niekro is a 4x.
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Here a miscut 450 Howard and ?, if that helps?
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Old 07-04-2024, 02:40 AM
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Default 1965 series 6

Elston Howard is a card in C1; the miscut shown is almost certainly Joel Horlen, so Horlen is also one of the 7 C1 cards. Howard is also at the top edge of one slit.

The wrong back currently posted on ebay of Niekro (461) make that card a C11 card.
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Great info guys-thanks-really appreciate!!!!
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