Let's talk about "over-looked" true Rookie cards....Pre-war and early Post-war

[JLange]

Originally Posted by G1911

This is how I feel, many of the dates "updated" in recent years are fairly obvious. Boudreau's "1948" Leaf card, Clarkson's "1887" A&G, SSPC's that were even marketed as a 1976 issue by the company. The catalog's and websites are unfortunately replete with assumptions, half-truths, questionable narratives labelled as fact, and untruth's amidst actual facts. It gets even worse when one ventures outside of the big sports

So much for 1936 World Wide Gum being a 1936 issue...

Does this mean the WWG Joe DiMaggio is now a 2nd year card?

[D. Bergin]

Originally Posted by JLange

So much for 1936 World Wide Gum being a 1936 issue...

Does this mean the WWG Joe DiMaggio is now a 2nd year card?

Strange wording on that card. Says he was runner up to Buddy Myer for the batting title "last year", which would have been 1935, and then jumps to mention of the trade in early 1937.

[Baseball Rarities]

Originally Posted by shagrotn77

Thanks, Kevin. It’s easier to understand for the older issues, but I would have thought that the date for something more recent like SSPC would have been nailed down from the start. Oh well. Thanks for the info.

Totally agree. I understand how so many errors occurred in the vintage sets, but the more modern ones not so much.

[G1911]

Originally Posted by JLange

So much for 1936 World Wide Gum being a 1936 issue...

Does this mean the WWG Joe DiMaggio is now a 2nd year card?

This is another great example. It’s a 1937 set, I don’t know why every publication and grader continues to insist it’s a 1936 issued set.

[shagrotn77]

Originally Posted by G1911

This is another great example. It’s a 1937 set, I don’t know why every publication and grader continues to insist it’s a 1936 issued set.

While some cards in this set clearly point to being issued no earlier than 1937, I'm inclined to think this may have been released in 2 parts during the 1936-37 timeframe. How else would you explain no mention of Joe D's amazing 1936 MLB rookie season on his card?

[Peter_Spaeth]

4.WWG's 1936 baseball set is, in fact, a two-year (1936-37) release that "imported" Goudey's photo premiums as promotional support.


https://www.number5typecollection.co...an-goudey.html

[G1911]

1936 is almost never mentioned on backs, “last season” means 1935 even on the multiple cards that could only have possibly been issued in 1937 or later.

It is possible it is a 1936-1937 issue, or 1937. I don’t know. I have seen no evidence it was actually issued at all in 1936, just articles saying it was without providing proof. The backs suggest it was originally intended for 1936 but was updated and actually put out in 1937. I’d have to find my notebook that has the lowest numbered card that could not possibly have come out in 1936.

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[benge610]

Originally Posted by h2oya311

I think my whole collection is comprised of "overlooked" true rookies...at least by my definition, which includes minor league cards, regionals, postcards, etc. And while I love team and multi-player cards, I prefer individual shots/photos.

Here are a few major league cards that fit the bill (last names A-B) - '32/33 Appling, '48 Ashburn, '67 Bench, '47 Berra, '74 Brett, '55 Bunning:

Thank you Derek; love your stuff.
One of mine, ..... Hmmmmm.

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[benge610]

Originally Posted by MikeGarcia

..a lot of nostalgia with this roster....Joe Garagiola with hair...and who can forget "Slats Marion"....


...Eureka Sportstamps Issue in 1948


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Don't forget Emil Verban!
(Game winning/Series winning hit of game 6; 1944 "St. Louis" World Series!)
I am giving this to his son; Dr. Emil Verban, Jr. - DDS; next time I stop by Bloomington, IL, where he still practices.



To Derek's point; even PSA gives the nod to '49.

[shagrotn77]

Originally Posted by G1911

As I understand it, the 1975 SSPC set was not actually issued until 1976, which would make it equal to the Topps issue unless someone has a specific date for each release.

I think Eck's rookie is a 1975 Postcard.

How tough of a find is Eck's 1975 postcard?

[h2oya311]

Originally Posted by shagrotn77

How tough of a find is Eck's 1975 postcard?

Honestly, pretty damn hard. I know a collector of Cleveland Indians postcards and I think he still doesn’t have this one. It was part of an “update” set and is not part of the standard 1975 team issue.

I bought mine in 2014 and, while I don’t track every AH and eBay sale, my spreadsheet notes show that I have seen a total of zero since that purchase. I believe I learned of the card in 2010 or so and hadn’t seen any for sale for the four years leading up to my purchase. There’s always a chance you stumble upon one in a random postcard lot, so don’t give up hope. But I wouldn’t hold my breath either!

[shagrotn77]

Originally Posted by h2oya311

Honestly, pretty damn hard. I know a collector of Cleveland Indians postcards and I think he still doesn’t have this one. It was part of an “update” set and is not part of the standard 1975 team issue.

I bought mine in 2014 and, while I don’t track every AH and eBay sale, my spreadsheet notes show that I have seen a total of zero since that purchase. I believe I learned of the card in 2010 or so and hadn’t seen any for sale for the four years leading up to my purchase. There’s always a chance you stumble upon one in a random postcard lot, so don’t give up hope. But I wouldn’t hold my breath either!

Gotcha. Thanks, Derek!

[Peter_Spaeth]

Originally Posted by h2oya311

Honestly, pretty damn hard. I know a collector of Cleveland Indians postcards and I think he still doesn’t have this one. It was part of an “update” set and is not part of the standard 1975 team issue.

I bought mine in 2014 and, while I don’t track every AH and eBay sale, my spreadsheet notes show that I have seen a total of zero since that purchase. I believe I learned of the card in 2010 or so and hadn’t seen any for sale for the four years leading up to my purchase. There’s always a chance you stumble upon one in a random postcard lot, so don’t give up hope. But I wouldn’t hold my breath either!

I learned of this through Derek years ago and have not seen one since.