Missing Mantle Rookie at National

[Paul S]

Originally Posted by Fballguy

Curious response. I'm guessing if it was your card, you'd be in a hurry.

If there were a "facetious" emoji available here, it would have been appended. I was referring to the large amount replies to the thread as weighted against the amount of first-person accounts. Maybe that was understood by most(?)

[frankbmd]

Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth

I suppose, but hard to believe any real collector would mock Red Heart collectors.

According to my research, 96.23% of dogs consumed only the dog food and not the card.

Therefore boarding kennel owners should be the “elite” Red Heart collectors.

Bow Wow WoW

[Lorewalker]

How about a cool ad?

[Jay Wolt]

That's fantastic, i'd frame that bad boy

[Stampsfan]

Please stop all this "dog food" talk. It's making me hungry.

[Peter_Spaeth]

Originally Posted by frankbmd

According to my research, 96.23% of dogs consumed only the dog food and not the card.

Therefore boarding kennel owners should be the “elite” Red Heart collectors.

Bow Wow WoW

Bulldog bulldog

[Peter_Spaeth]

An interesting thing about Red Hearts is that while printed in 1954, they were available through mail-in offers through the early 1970s. Indeed I wonder if any of the cards were later printed.

[lowpopper]

This card is still missing. Please continue to keep an eye out. Thanks.

- Greg

[lowpopper]

This card has still not been recovered. If there is any info, please PM me or make it public. Thanks in advance.

BTW...BIG reward still offered

[CTDean]

Originally Posted by lowpopper

This card has still not been recovered. If there is any info, please PM me or make it public. Thanks in advance.

BTW...BIG reward still offered

Greg, I would add the 1951 Bowman Mantle cert # again for those that go straight to the last page of an older thread. Hope it turns up!

[lowpopper]

This card has still not been recovered since it was stolen. It could be cracked
out raw or in a different holder. It has to turn up somewhere eventually.

A LARGE cash reward is still available for any info that leads to its recovery.

[nsaddict]

Very sorry it's still not recovered. Most likely in a different holder. Keeping my fingers crossed and best of luck!

[Peter_Spaeth]

I assume you keep checking sales of comparably graded ones?

[Aquarian Sports Cards]

or 6's that are a little narrow top to bottom?

[conor912]

Look for it graded an 8 in Brent's next auction.

[lowpopper]

If the Internet Card Detectives can find 1/64 of and inch missing from the back
of a Tom Brady rookie, locating this card should be easy, no?

Can somebody post Mickey on Blowout? I don't have an account.

[Peter_Spaeth]

Originally Posted by lowpopper

If the Internet Card Detectives can find 1/64 of and inch missing from the back
of a Tom Brady rookie, locating this card should be easy, no?

Can somebody post Mickey on Blowout? I don't have an account.

I will email one of the guys for you.

[BengoughingForAwhile]

Originally Posted by lowpopper

This card has still not been recovered since it was stolen. It could be cracked
out raw or in a different holder. It has to turn up somewhere eventually.

A LARGE cash reward is still available for any info that leads to its recovery.

If you have a quality back scan that you can share it could definitely help in identifying your card if someone tries to sell it, or has sold it, provided they also have a quality back scan in their listing.

[lowpopper]

$5000 reward to anyone who provides info leading to the recovery of this card.

Thanks in advance.

[MikeGarcia]

Originally Posted by Aquarian Sports Cards

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/...=.a30ca1a26f7f

...so absorbed in this story my coffee grew cold....wow ...just wow...

..

[Buythatcard]

I just reread this entire thread and noticed one thing. Nobody thought about asking the person selling ice cream whether they saw anything.

[conor912]

Originally Posted by Buythatcard

I just reread this entire thread and noticed one thing. Nobody thought about asking the person selling ice cream whether they saw anything.

I heard it was Colonel Mustard in the convention hall with the ice cream cone.

[T205 GB]

Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth

An interesting thing about Red Hearts is that while printed in 1954, they were available through mail-in offers through the early 1970s. Indeed I wonder if any of the cards were later printed.

Hey Peter hope all is well. Some time back I was able to identify that there was at least two separate print runs. Type 1 and type 2. Mantle was used to identify the two. The light blues were type 1 and the dark blues are type two. There are also print marks and alignments that show the differences. I will see if I can get those posted for you to look at.

[T205 GB]

Type one and Type two 54 Red Hearts

[Seven]

Read through this entire thread. Really sorry you've gone through this Greg. Don't have much to contribute in terms of helping search for the card, it's just a terrible reality that there's some extremely dishonest people, with no sense of morals, that steal.

[lowpopper]

All I can ask is that everyone keep an eye out. It will inevitably pop up somewhere eventually.

[Peter_Spaeth]

I hope so for your sake, but it seems to me the most likely scenario is that it would have been broken out of the holder making it untraceable whether it was sold raw, or resubbed.

[luciobar1980]

Yeah, but every card is basically as unique as a fingerprint. It could be found. Not out of the realm of possibility.

[ALR-bishop]

Well, some cards do have fingerprints

[Peter_Spaeth]

Originally Posted by luciobar1980

Yeah, but every card is basically as unique as a fingerprint. It could be found. Not out of the realm of possibility.

Not even a back scan.

[Tyruscobb]

I can’t imagine all the emotions that you have experienced since the theft occurred. I wish you luck. Finding the card is obviously the first hurdle, but potentially not the tallest.

The reason is the card has probably changed owners several times since the theft. I doubt the original thief is still holding the card. Moreover, the card is probably now encased in a SGC or BVG holder which will (1) make it more difficult to find the card and (2) make it difficult to prove the current owner is not a bona fide/good faith purchaser.

The current possessor is potentially innocent and a bona fide/good faith owner. If so, some states have laws that protect these purchasers/owners. This is especially true if the person that sold him/her the card is long gone. However, that person may also have been an innocent bona fide/ good faith purchaser. The theory is why should the tenth owner down the chain bear the loss if he/she had no idea the card was originally stolen and purchased it in good faith.

The current owner now potentially has a good legal title to the card. So, even if you can somehow locate the card, you then have to fight with the current owner. No one is going to voluntarily hand over a five figure card without a legal battle.

[bnorth]

Originally Posted by lowpopper

All I can ask is that everyone keep an eye out. It will inevitably pop up somewhere eventually.

Did anything ever pan out from all the great info you got from Mathew, I mean NotVader?

[Huck]

Originally Posted by Lorewalker

How about a cool ad?

Well over a decade ago, I found and purchased that ad on ebay. I plan to have the ad framed along with the 33 cards. I almost there, three cards to go!

[rdwyer]

When I saw this post months later, I thought it had been found. What a bummer to find it still hasn't been found. I hope whoever has it, gets paid back with karma.

[Peter_Spaeth]

Originally Posted by Tyruscobb

I can’t imagine all the emotions that you have experienced since the theft occurred. I wish you luck. Finding the card is obviously the first hurdle, but potentially not the tallest.

The reason is the card has probably changed owners several times since the theft. I doubt the original thief is still holding the card. Moreover, the card is probably now encased in a SGC or BVG holder which will (1) make it more difficult to find the card and (2) make it difficult to prove the current owner is not a bona fide/good faith purchaser.

The current possessor is potentially innocent and a bona fide/good faith owner. If so, some states have laws that protect these purchasers/owners. This is especially true if the person that sold him/her the card is long gone. However, that person may also have been an innocent bona fide/ good faith purchaser. The theory is why should the tenth owner down the chain bear the loss if he/she had no idea the card was originally stolen and purchased it in good faith.

The current owner now potentially has a good legal title to the card. So, even if you can somehow locate the card, you then have to fight with the current owner. No one is going to voluntarily hand over a five figure card without a legal battle.

That's news to me, I thought the old rule of nemo dat quod non habet (noone can give what he does not have, meaning a thief cannot convey good title) was still pretty universally followed in the US.