Ruth and Gehrig Balls - Authentic?

[Michael B]

Pal - Per the SITE (not sight) rules you must include your full name when you are offering an opinion of someone or company which you clearly have. You appear to be the one hiding anonymously. If you wish to toss out accusations you should have the grunt to post your name. I am not an expert on Ruth or Gehrig and trust the word of the people that do offer an opinion. However, what little I have learned I would guess that a blind Tibetan monk with Parkinson's Disease could probably do a better forgery that the ones originally shown.

[Michael B]

Originally Posted by Shoeless Moe

this one?......

https://www.ebay.com/itm/BABE-RUTH-A...vip=true&rt=nc

The COF (Cert of Forgery) is from R&R Enterprises in North Carolina, not to be confused with RR in New Hampshire. The website is amusing. Love the George Bush and Richard Nixon signed baseballs. Both good for a backyard game of catch.

[Michael B]

[QUOTE=Shoeless Moe;1754076]and this one:

https://www.ebay.com/itm/TY-COBB-SIG...p2047675.l2557


funny thing in the listing it says "I'm not a collector" yet the Ebay ID is JJCollector504


Love that COF from Bowie Kuhn!! I did not know he was an autograph expert when he was alive.

[ding974]

I noticed in Richard Simon's reply he says at the bottom "ask for my autograph price list." So basically you are in the autograph selling business, yourself--isn't that correct? Casting aspersions on competitors in some peoples minds is a way for them to try to get business away from a competitor. Is that the case with you---because it sure appears to be??

In truth, the reason I waited 3 years to respond to VA Yankees comments, is because it was only in the last couple of days a competitor informed me of the same problems he had with the same fellow, and about his posting. I usually don't spend a minute of time looking at these "whine-lines."

What I do find interesting, and give support to my hypothesis, is that from simply posting a rebuttal from some unbeknownst guy to most of you, the immediate inclination on your parts was to immediately start casting accusations and snarky comments in my direction without knowing squat. That is proven by somebody pointing out a Gehrig/Ruth item, that if you actually looked at our website would see we have absolutely not an item signed by either one of them up for sale.

For me, I got my Sunday laughs reading this stuff. Anybody who was lucid who would read most of the posts on this site would also find spending more than a few minutes for entertainment, also a waste of time. If any of the fairy tales that are spun on here had a shred of evidence backing them up, the entities you accuse (all your competitors--but not yourselve's of course) would all be out of business and/or locked up.

So have at it--given you all enough fodder to stay out of your usual haunts like the saloons and the bread lines to knock yourself out and write nasty, disparaging, non-factual comments backed up without 1 shred of evidence until your heart is content, and then maybe when I come back to this site again 10 years from now I'll be able to get some more laughs.

[parker1b2]

[QUOTE=ding974;1754100]I noticed in Richard Simon's reply he says at the bottom "ask for my autograph price list." So basically you are in the autograph selling business, yourself--isn't that correct? Casting aspersions on competitors in some peoples minds is a way for them to try to get business away from a competitor. Is that the case with you---because it sure appears to



Richard is in the Authentic autograph selling business.

[Big Six]

Oh Leon...we have an idiot at the gates...would like to know his name before engaging! Gracias...M@tt McC@rthy


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[Kco]

Originally Posted by ding974

I noticed in Richard Simon's reply he says at the bottom "ask for my autograph price list." So basically you are in the autograph selling business, yourself--isn't that correct? Casting aspersions on competitors in some peoples minds is a way for them to try to get business away from a competitor. Is that the case with you---because it sure appears to be??

In truth, the reason I waited 3 years to respond to VA Yankees comments, is because it was only in the last couple of days a competitor informed me of the same problems he had with the same fellow, and about his posting. I usually don't spend a minute of time looking at these "whine-lines."

What I do find interesting, and give support to my hypothesis, is that from simply posting a rebuttal from some unbeknownst guy to most of you, the immediate inclination on your parts was to immediately start casting accusations and snarky comments in my direction without knowing squat. That is proven by somebody pointing out a Gehrig/Ruth item, that if you actually looked at our website would see we have absolutely not an item signed by either one of them up for sale.

For me, I got my Sunday laughs reading this stuff. Anybody who was lucid who would read most of the posts on this site would also find spending more than a few minutes for entertainment, also a waste of time. If any of the fairy tales that are spun on here had a shred of evidence backing them up, the entities you accuse (all your competitors--but not yourselve's of course) would all be out of business and/or locked up.

So have at it--given you all enough fodder to stay out of your usual haunts like the saloons and the bread lines to knock yourself out and write nasty, disparaging, non-factual comments backed up without 1 shred of evidence until your heart is content, and then maybe when I come back to this site again 10 years from now I'll be able to get some more laughs.

For someone who doesn’t care what the 20 people who use this site have to say, you sure are writing a ton of long winded defensive comments. You sell blatant forgeries man, when I want a good Sunday laugh I hop on over to your auctions, but please, keep on going!

[chaddurbin]

honesty this guy is good...the stuff they sell is horseshit, but the deflection and diversion is on point! after 18 years of selling crap he's got an excuse and comeback for any situation down pat.

[Fuddjcal]

Originally Posted by ding974

Because I do not have 24/7 to sit on the Internet, with nothing else better to do, and only addressed this matter when it was recently pointed out to me. Obviously you people do have lots of spare time on your hands. My understanding is most of the posters on here are failed individuals in this business-1 of which I know for sure is. You guys act all high and mighty, like you know squat about hand-writing. You make lots of derogatory comments, talk a big game behind the anonymity of the computer-- but offer not a shred of proof backing up your allegations. I'm sure this response will get all kinds of derogatory comments from the jackals who peruse this site night & day. Does not matter to me, nor 99% of the population, who realize what a joke this site is.

You are knucklehead Dingdong PERIOD. Shave your head and start a rock pile.

[steve B]

Highlighting by me.

Originally Posted by ding974

What I do find interesting, and give support to my hypothesis, is that from simply posting a rebuttal from some unbeknownst guy to most of you, the immediate inclination on your parts was to immediately start casting accusations and snarky comments in my direction without knowing squat. That is proven by somebody pointing out a Gehrig/Ruth item, that if you actually looked at our website would see we have absolutely not an item signed by either one of them up for sale.

Oh really? No Ruth items for sale?

https://memorabiliacenter.com/produc...sox-display-3/


That website is the same one listed on your LOA as seen here.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/Mickey-Mant...item4677bc69ce

Soo..... you're the sales manager, and you don't know you've got a Ruth item for sale?
And we're the ones spending our time in saloons?

Unless you actually meant that any Ruth or Gehrig items you're selling are not actually signed by them?

[Bpm0014]

This board has the most knowledgeable collectors in the hobby. I would take people's opinions on this board on authentication over anywhere else, including PSA, JSA etc.

Fact!

[Runscott]

Originally Posted by ding974

What are there on this sight, 15-20 regulars?? If you think people take you seriously then there would be thousands on here--so keep deluding yourself.

Thanks for joining. Now there are a thousand and a half.

[Golfcollector]

Not to dig up old news....but since I look on ebay for Crawford items...it didn't take long to find a thread on similar items here..

A sam crawford auto ball via the Ken Smith collection and a COA from Halper.
Looks like the same seller has sold some others lately too looking at feedback.


I really do love reading the posts on this board.

[RichardSimon]

Originally Posted by Golfcollector

Not to dig up old news....but since I look on ebay for Crawford items...it didn't take long to find a thread on similar items here..

A sam crawford auto ball via the Ken Smith collection and a COA from Halper.
Looks like the same seller has sold some others lately too looking at feedback.


I really do love reading the posts on this board.

I have never agreed with the authenticity of any "Halper" COA. IMO they are all part of a scam.

[rjackson44]

love richard jaffe shelly but my question is why is coaches corners owners not in jail yet ,why ,,you cant make this up

[Wrightfan85]

Originally Posted by rjackson44

love richard jaffe shelly but my question is why is coaches corners owners not in jail yet ,why ,,you cant make this up

They even have a 30 lb "mystery box." I don't even believe it's 30 lbs and it's probably just a box period.

My favorites this month are the Washingtom and Adams autos done in the same red ink. Wonder where I can find a green sharpie auto of Jefferson?

[timzcardz]

Originally Posted by sycks22

It's pretty amazing that they used the same pen and has the same amount of fading being that they're signed 9 years apart.

And that he . . uh . . . "they" . . . formed the 7s and 8s the same way!

[RichardSimon]

Originally Posted by rjackson44

love richard jaffe shelly but my question is why is coaches corners owners not in jail yet ,why ,,you cant make this up

There was, at one time, a serious investigation of CC. For some unknown reason, it came to a screeching halt.
A member here (not me, not Shelly, not Chris) had documented CC's auctions for years and turned over his files to the proper authorities. It seemed that progress was being made and then all of a sudden poof, the investigation came to a screeching halt.

[thetruthisoutthere]

Originally Posted by RichardSimon

There was, at one time, a serious investigation of CC. For some unknown reason, it came to a screeching halt.
A member here (not me, not Shelly, not Chris) had documented CC's auctions for years and turned over his files to the proper authorities. It seemed that progress was being made and then all of a sudden poof, the investigation came to a screeching halt.

I remember that.