Buy/Sell/Trade - December 2004

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Posted By: William

I am looking for 1933 Butter Cream singles. If anyone has any, please let me know.


Thanks

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Posted By: T206Collector

Please let me know if you have for sale any T-206 Cobbs, graded 2 thru 4 by PSA, SGC or GAI. Please send an e-mail, with price and scans if possible, to pmifsud3d@gmail.com

Thanks!

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Posted By: thomas mcconnell

in vg or better raw or graded. graded would be better but will take what i can get no trimmed cards please

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Posted By: Joe_G.

1887 Tomlinson Jimmy Manning Cabinet
As always, I’m interested in 19th Century Detroit items. As such, the Tomlinson cabinet of Manning mentioned above is of interest and has my attention but I’d like to point out a couple observations. While the seller has been very gracious to my inquiries and enjoys superb feedback, I’d like to clear up some discrepancies (or at least gray areas).

- Seller refers to Manning as a "World Champion Detroit Wolverine utility player" which, I guess, is a true statement. Another fact would be Manning was the teams worst performer with a 0.192 BA and .742 fielding percentage in 13 games (10LF, 3SS).
- Manning doesn't appear on the team composite "Champions of the League" cabinet.
- Perhaps most importantly, the Bennett Tomlinson mentioned on sellers eBay listing did not sell for “about $3500”. Just under $2850 is more accurate. The high premium realized for the Bennett card likely had something to do with Bennett being a HOF hopeful (arguably the best defensive catcher of the 19th Century) and the card being in better condition (no photo blemishes / chip). The other most recent Tomlinson cards sold on eBay realized far less, $360 for this very card last month (wish I noticed it then – item #6131302045) and a couple hundred for a Baldwin.

I realize some of this is minor and may backfire in my quest to obtain the card, but I just want to make sure everyone is on the same page (at least those interested in the card). Best of Luck.

- WANTED -

Detroit N172 Old Judge Cards:
(there are others, but most interested in the following 13 members)
- Lady Baldwin
- Dan Brouthers
- Pete Conway
- Charlie Ganzel
- Charlie Getzein
- Ned Hanlon
- Hardy Richardson
- Jack Rowe
- Sam Thompson
- Larry Twitchell
- Bill Watkins
- Stump Weidman
- Deacon White

- TRADE MATERIAL - (for above items)

Several graded and more ungraded Old Judges including duplicate Detroits.

Regards,
Joe Gonsowski
twinturbo@comcast.net

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Posted By: ramram

Looking for scorebooks and team images.

Rob M.

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Posted By: ockday

I need the following caramel cards in gradeable condition to complete these sets..

E90-1 Camnitz, Clarke Pitt, Duffy, Mclean, Mike Mitchell, Wagner throwing, Walsh
E92 Kleinow
E95 Evers, Leach, McIntyre, Plank, Reulbach
E98 Mathewson, Kling, Clarke, Walsh, Evers, Coombs

I have some extra cards from these same sets (and also a few e93, e97)to trade or will pay cash.
Thanks,
Alan
alan@moret.com

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Posted By: Joe_G.

Rob, I do know he frequents the board and I respect him as a dealer and contributor as such. And yes I am interested in this card. My post was 100% honest and factual. I simply corrected his statement on the Bennett Tomlinson selling price, gave some background info on Manning, and stated that he doesn't appear on the team composite that has become well known (auctioned in Mastro April '04, REA May '04, & Mastro Dec '04).

I am thinking about bidding on the card but believe the misrepresentations might make the card too pricey. I simply stated some facts and hope the seller would agree with them. I don't see how I've given myself an unfair advantage. I apologize to anyone I may have offended, if the board believes this is in bad taste I can remove the post.

Regards,
Joe Gonsowski

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Posted By: Brian H (misunderestimated)

I just want to add that based on my experiences I seriously doubt there was any imporoper or malicious motive behind any of Joe's post about the rare cabinet card. Joe G. specifically collects Detroit Wolverines cards, knows the history of the 1887 championship team well, posts frquently and never friviolously and from my limited experience is an honorable guy who was simply sharing his knowledge.

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Posted By: Jason

First, thanks to Rob (ramram) for his kind words. 2nd I have no problem with someone stating the truth, which Joe did about the $2,850. I am not a specialist in post 1870's cards so I pay scant attention to cards dating after that period. I could have sworn that the Bennett went for $3500 but it is one of those things that you only half remember if it's not your main collecting area. Yes, I should have checked before stating it on the ad but I assure everyone it was not done to mislead.

So, I have no problem with the truth but I am slightly disappointed with the motive if it was just aired to keep the price low for a prospective bidder.

I respect Joe and know he is a very experienced collector but what he states about the prowess of Manning is immaterial. This is a very rare card from a very rare set and yes, stars command a premium but this is not just any common player card. If you want to amass the Tomlinson’s set you need this card and although I may be corrected, I have not ever seen another Tomlinson’s Manning card for sale. I also never stated that Manning was on the team composite card either. His picture was taken by Tomlinson at the same time as all the other Detroit players but was left off the final composition. He was still a Detroit player and was still important enough to have had an individual cabinet made of him.

Regarding how much I paid for the card - it was my good fortune that I spotted it after the seller promoted the card poorly and inserted it into a less than visible category. People are envious of the deal now but the prospective bidders could have had the card then but didn’t see it. Just because it went for the stated amount then, does not mean that it is the actual market value. I got it well below its true value and it’s as simple as that. I am sorry if that value is beyond certain collector’s reaches or expectations but the informed market will determine where it goes.

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Posted By: Joe_G.

Thanks Jason, I support most of your comments. I have no problem bidding against others on a level playing field. My concern was/is some bidders may have taken your listing verbatim without knowledge of the Bennett sale, Manning the player, and Tomlinson cards in general. Normally I'd just say "buyer beware", "shame on the ignorant", but your add includes some misleading information. I'm sure it wasn't intentional, but still misleading none-the-less.

I was not trying to state the cards current market value was equal to your purchase price last month. You certainly stumbled across a nice find on the "electronic flea market", no one can hold it against you for taking advantage of a nice find.

When I shared the same items with you privately and no changes resulted to your listing here or eBay, I simply took it the next level and posted them myself.

And for the record, in case anyone cares, the Manning card is an 1886 cabinet. The team composite is from 1887. Tomlinson changed to a very different mount (front & back advertising) between 1886 & 1887. The production and distribution of the team composite cabinet was quite different than the 1886 Manning card and I wouldn't consider them part of the "same set".

Lastly, it's not that the card is "beyond my reaches". I simply have to treat it like anyone else on this forum and weigh what value it has to me. I'm sure the card will do quite well. All this advertising should send it past Bennett's realized price

Regards,
Joe Gonsowski

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Posted By: Bill Cornell

Can you guys move this discussion into a new thread? Thanks.

Bill

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Posted By: Bill Cornell

Prices are ppd & insured.

Mullin PSA 5 (EX) - $80
Duffy SGC 50 (VG/EX) - $125

Scans of front & back on request.

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Posted By: Ray

I want your "poor", your "fair", and even your "good" (if they're cheap) T206 cards! I'll take your Cobb's that are in two pieces! Your Big Train's that are cut around his head! Any cheap T206 cards I need! I only have about 60 so far, so e-mail me your list of beaters and let's do business!

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Posted By: wesley

sold

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Posted By: Bottom of the Ninth

D359's. Please excuse the poor splicing job on the images. Owner wants to sell them as a group but his contact information can be found on the link below.

http://www.botn.com/ff.html

Thanks,
Greg

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Posted By: Nathan

Am looking for all Luther Taylor T206 cards - including rare backs.

Email me to discuss prices.

Thanks!

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Posted By: Darren J. Duet

Always buying T222 and T227's. If you have any for sale e- me.

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Posted By: Indy

Hello, I'm still new to the scene. I'm looking for some t206 cards to start my collection. I want to spend $60. I figure I could get 2 decent ones for that. I want to start out slow. I figure it would be safer that way. Let me know if anyone wants to help. My email is derbymw80@yahoo.com

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Posted By: Donald Johnson

Hello,

I have the following T202's for sale:

PSA 6 Walter Johnson/Charles Street Birmingham Gets to Third - sold

PSA 6 John McLean/Harry Gaspar Carrigan Gets his Man - sold

Scans are of course available upon request.

Thanks!

Don J.

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Posted By: three25hits

Looking for Obaks 1909 any condition; 1910/11 VG or better. Will buy or trade.

Thanks

Brian

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Posted By: Scott Elkins

Thought I would list them here first in case a board member wanted them, since a PSA 5 E96 Marquard just went for $586 + insurance and shipping on eBay.

PSA 4 (Very Nice for the grade) E96 Marquard - $375 (SOLD)
PSA 1 E102 Lajoie - $65
GAI 2.5 E90-1 Mordecai Brown - $165
PSA 3 E90-3 Ed Walsh - $350 (SOLD)

All prices include insured shipping in the US or standard shipping to Canada or other countries. Thanks again and Happy Holidays!

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Posted By: Gary B.

Looking to buy a lower condition Babe Ruth - almost any issue - looking for a good deal for someone who has always wanted a period Babe Ruth card but can't afford a lot of $ - any help would be much appreciated...

UPDATE:
Actually, it looks like my free finances will be tied up elsewhere for a little while on other projects. Feel free to still e-mail me with any offers, but I likely won't be able to take anyone up on anything right now unless it's something completely irresistable. I'll re-submit this request in a month or two or whenever when I have some more cash freed up. Thanks everyone!

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Posted By: quan

e90-3 hofman psa 4- $350SOLD
e90-3 tinker psa 3 (green)-$380SOLD
e90-3 dougherty sgc50 (OC/miscut)-$175
e90-3 schulte psa 3-$200
e93 chase psa 3-$80
e93 bender psa 3- $175
e95 crawford psa 3- $175
e95 reulbach VG-$75
e95 devlin VG/EX-$100
e96 rossman psa 2-$50
e98 clarke VG red -$150SOLD
e98 chase F/G blue-$45SOLD
e98 mclean G orange -$45 SOLD
e102 group evers, kleinow, dougherty, smith, donovan ranges from F/G-VG $250SOLD
'15 cracker jack tinker sgc60-$525
'15 cracker jack lajoie psa 5-$1200
'15 cracker jack mathewson psa 5-$2250
d304 baker sgc30-$450SOLD

serious inquiries only please, i would want to trade first before selling for cards i need (caramel hofs e94, e95 cobb, e98 wagner, e102 cobb wagner etc)... quannimir@yahoo.com ebay trying!

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Posted By: Mike

Looking for 1914-1915 Cracker Jack "ad" cards, any condition.

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Posted By: Lee Behrens

Happy Holidays

I have listed some Sporting News M101-2s tonight and will be listing more in the next couple weeks.

I have also listed some T206s and our Attic2Ca$h is selling some lots of B18 blankets.

http://attic2cash.net/

All be good so Santa comes to your house,

Lee

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Posted By: Jenna

New to this board, but I am selling two Mayo's Cut Plug cards in low grade, but guaranteed authentic. Anson and Robinson, will send scans on request, send me an email, both cards are slightly trimmed and like I said, lower grade, but present well, and are guaranteed authentic!!! jennafox@umail.ucsb.edu for price and scans.

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Posted By: Jeff McKee

Hi All,
I am going to be listing these on ebay in the next few days. If you have any interest let me know for prices and scans. Thanks, Jeff

Player Variation Back Condition
Camnitz (arm at side) Lenox "Sold"
Gavy Cravath Carolina Bright will be listed soon on ebay
Cy Seymour (Throwing) Cycle 460 on ebay
George Davis (HoFer) El Principe De Gales Sold
Oscar Stangage Piedmont 350 on ebay
Hub Perdue (Southern Leaguer) Old Mill on ebay
(writing on back kills grade otherwise looks like a SGC 30)
ebay id. karate_bro
1916 Babe Ruth (E135) Collins and McCarthy PSA 2 on ebay

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Posted By: Bottom of the Ninth

Looking to complete my set.

Need the following: (per the 2005 Standard Catalog)

#4 (Leaping scoreboard in background)
#7 (Portrait holding glove in air)
#13 (Throwing)

Have for trade:
#10 (Sliding) PSA 5

Thanks!

Greg

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Posted By: Paul

I am wanting an Old Judge Card featuring a Detroit Tiger. I prefer no hall of fame players because I would not have the cash so I do not want to waste anyone's time wit them. Please email scan and asking price to jdalymgd@yahoo.com.

Thanks,
Paul

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Posted By: Dan Koteles

Joe Wood Cracker Jack 14 or 15 ex or better
Frank Baker T205 t206 ex or better and t227 & baking cards vg and up
Tip Top Pirates Dreyfuss and the Mascot cards... any will do though ,working on second set.

E97's - Austin, Bradley, Carrigan, Davis , Doolan, Durham, Heinchman, Hemphill, Kroh, Kelley, Keeler, Mcintyre, Mc Connell, Moore, Murray, Nichols, Rossman, Steinfeldt, Cy.Young

t204 Ramly - Evers vgx or better
t209 Color- ALL
t201 Matty and Johnson ex or better

Thank you

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Posted By: David Seaborn

I've posted four nice SGC-graded N28 Allen & Ginters on eBay tonight. They include Caruthers 80, Clarkson 84, Mulvey 84, and Keefe 60.

We also now have over 300 SGC graded T206's on our brand new website. Please check it out at www.oldoriole.com

Thanks!

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Posted By: FatBoy

Have to trade (all graded by SGC):

E90-1 Baker 40, E91A Sheckard 40, E91B Hoffman 50, E91C Donohue 50, E92 Chase 40, E93 Delehanty 40, E96 Murray 40, E98 Evers 30, E101 Chance 20, E102 Miller 50, E103 McLean 20, E105 Knight 80, E106 Tinker 30, E121 Vaughn 70, E135 Ames 50, E145 Collins 80, E254 Moriarty 86, H801-8 Hendrix 80, M101-4 Luderus 88, M101-5 Schmidt 50, M116 O'Connor 86, N162 Andrews 40, N162 Glasscock 40 (displays much nicer), N162 Keefe 50, N162 Kelly 30, N162 Sullivan 40, N162 Buffalo Bill Cody 40, N172 Denny 80, N284 Bastian 70, T201 Miller/Hertzog 80, T202 Thomas/Krause 80, T204 Stephens 40, T205 Wolter 80, T206 Bliss 84, T207 Devore 80, T210 McLean 60, T212 LaLonge 70, T213 Quinn 30, WG2 Beaumont 92, WG4 Plank 86, WG5 Stahl 86, WG6 Batter 88, Tango Eggs Bescher 80, 1884 Lawson Striker 84, 1889 E R Williams Batter Out 40.



Looking for in decent VG-EX condition or better:

T3s - Walsh, Rucker, McGraw, Krause, Bresnahan, Lord, Waddell, Magee, Elberfeld, Lennox, Merkle, Smith, Konetchy, Willis, Bransfield, Speaker, Raymond, McBride, Baker, Jordan.

T9s - McGovern, Attell, W Lewis, H Lewis, Johnson, Langford, Marto, Cross, T Murphy, Driscoll.

Also would love to have a nice N173.


Make me an offer. thanks, Keith

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Posted By: quan

Have available...

D304 Lajoie PSA 5
'14 Cracker Jack Walter Johnson PSA 3...looks better at least VG/EX
e93 Griffith PSA 6
e106 Speaker psa 3
t206 Johnson Portrait/Chest both psa 4s
t206 Mattys Black/White Cap both psa 4s
e90-3 Walsh psa 4
e121/80 Ruth Red Sox pose psa 4

Looking for 1910's HOF candy cards...especially e94 Young/Speaker/Cobb (vg up), e96 Lajoie (at least EX), e97 kelley (at least VG/EX), e98 Wagner/Young (at least VG), e102 Cobb. Can do trade or cards/cash.

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Posted By: brian campf

Hi, if you have any 1908 American League Publishing Co. postcards to sell I'd love to hear from you. Thanks, Brian.

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Posted By: ramram

Click on the text to see pics.

1888 Joseph Hall Athletics team cabinet card - sharp image with some edge trimming.

c. 1885 Augusta team image. Rare image from the short-lived Southern League. Many of the players from the Southern League also played in the AA and NL. This image is a large 10" x 13" and has some defects (see image) but has been matted for it's protection. Scorer holds Spalding scorebook, catcher has fingerless workman gloves and team mascot is shown.

1880's baseball player cabinet card


1880's baseball player cabinet card #2. Some staining to lower left of card.

Beautiful late 1870's integrated baseball team cabinet card with very clear Spalding logo baseball bats.

A closer view of one of the bats.

1870's Oakland Neb. BBC team cabinet card.

Civil war albumen image produced in the 1880's showing soldiers playing "ball". No bat in image. Not exactly sure what game of "ball" this is but interesting none-the-less.

Very interesting grouping of 16 scorebooks, apparently kept by a scout, covering hundreds of PCL games between 1958 and 1969. Most of the games are Vancouver, Tacoma and Seattle. Some of the names I recall coming across are; Brooks Robinson, Willie McCovey, Tony LaRussa, Lou Pineilla, Steve Carlton, Gaylord Perry and many others. One game even had Satchell Paige pitching (the final game of the season) and I believe he would have been around 60 years old then. There are also a smattering of professional games he went to including the Yankees/Braves World Series game.

Email me for questions or pricing.
Rob M.

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Posted By: hankron

(5) Oscar Gamble autographed 1990s bank checks. From his personal account with his name and address printed on each check. Near Mint or better signatures$25

(5) Ralph Houk autographed 1990s bank checks. From his personal account with his and his wife’s names and address printed on each check. Near Mint or better signatures$25

Collection of original 1990s Vogue magazine jumbo color photos (15 different). Combination of beautiful, pretty, colorful, wonderful, sweet, exciting, sexy, wholesome 11x14 inches (mostly) photos shot for Vogue. Shows fully clothed anonymous female fashion models, some girls. Most of the images are unpublished outtakes. I have been told that one shows model Molly Simms in a costume, but I haven’t looked into it … Includes two ‘printed later’ photos by legendary photographers. 1) Woman with flower shot in the 1940s by Horst P. Horst. The German Horst was head of Vogue’s Paris photography studio. 2) Famous model Penelope Tree shot in 1960s by David Bailey. Many consider the British Bailey to be the world’s greatest living photographer … None of the photos are stamped, marked or tagged, except one that has the sticker of the photographer’s agenct. Near Mint.