1911 sweet caporal t206 red murray portrait, "murr'y" variation! Extremely rare!

[Runscott]

Originally Posted by Zone91

Just purchased this card since I collect player variations of T206 cards

When did you start collecting these?

Not making fun of you, but I have been sometimes smiling, sometimes laughing throughout my read of this thread, but the very first sentence is still the best.

As I got closer to the end I began feeling guilty about how much you've entertained me this morning, because there is such a potential for disaster here. I sincerely hope that you were somehow born with a great feel for vintage card purchasing - I'm sure it's possible, but that's a skill that took most of us a lot longer to gain.

In addition, I am having a vision of you showing up here one morning screaming through your keyboard, begging for answers, as opposed to simply telling us which baffling card you just dropped thousands of $'s on.

Good luck with this buying frenzy - I really mean that.

[Zone91]

auggiedoggy

Again you are wrong...the 52 Topps Mantle had been on Ebay only for about 1 hour same as the 1887 Old Judge card and 99% of them except for the E90-1 Caramel Mike Mitchell all where almost new to Ebay.

[Zone91]

Runscott

I started collecting variations about a month go...yes I know a rookie...but I seem to enjoy it very much so I am continuing to do so....we all start somewhere and for me this was it.

The buying is over except for 2 cards the O'hara T206 variation and the Magie error T206 card....after those 2 it may be months and months before I make another purchase.

[4815162342]

Originally Posted by Zone91

auggiedoggy

Again you are wrong...the 52 Topps Mantle had been on Ebay only for about 1 hour same as the 1887 Old Judge card and 99% of them except for the E90-1 Caramel Mike Mitchell all where almost new to Ebay.

Did you switch back to the Mantle from the Dunlop?

[Zone91]

4815162342

Yes I did!!! Why? After reading here that the Dunlop was a rare card it got me wanting it over the Mantle simply because I prefer rarer cards over simply popular ones. I also read a couple of hours on the Dunlop on the net.

[Leon]

Originally Posted by auggiedoggy

I can think of no other case where a seller would put items on hold based on a promise from a buyer.

Reread your whole comment and do agree...

[Ease]

I think the threads are very worthwhile to read. Really shows who among us have negative/positive outlooks. Shows a lot about folks' personalities. Lay off of Adrian, he's having fun and learning. I'm sure many of us have gone on buying binges before, especially early on when the fever is at its highest. He will either burn out or become a valued member of the collecting community, let him find his way.
Just my 2 cents.

[Zone91]

Ease

My goal would be to be a valued member here one day down the road. Thanks for the nice comment!!!

[Leon]

Originally Posted by Ease

I think the threads are very worthwhile to read. Really shows who among us have negative/positive outlooks. Shows a lot about folks' personalities. Lay off of Adrian, he's having fun and learning. I'm sure many of us have gone on buying binges before, especially early on when the fever is at its highest. He will either burn out or become a valued member of the collecting community, let him find his way.
Just my 2 cents.

Eric- I appreciate your comments. I hope everyone will reflect on them and understand the difficulty with my getting involved.

[Zone91]

And if for any reason one card was cancelled I always paid the fees if any occurred!!!

Ask Brian at B&W sports cards I cancelled the E90-1 Caramel Mike Mitchel and was asked to pay 90$ I did so in less than 24 hours. I would not do otherwise...because I am honest and appreciate dealers who help me out.

[bn2cardz]

Originally Posted by Zone91

Just purchased this card since I collect player variations of T206 cards figured with only about 5 known with the sweet caporal back I could not go wrong at this price ....the highest a point higher sold for almost 5000$ in 2009.

Mine has a pretty bad looking back but since it is so rare I don't mind it.

You don't have to start a thread every time you make a purchase. As directed before there is a pickup thread you can use.

[Zone91]

bn2cardz

Noted!!!

[auggiedoggy]

Originally Posted by Zone91

auggiedoggy

Again you are wrong...the 52 Topps Mantle had been on Ebay only for about 1 hour same as the 1887 Old Judge card and 99% of them except for the E90-1 Caramel Mike Mitchell all where almost new to Ebay.

No, I am not wrong. The sellers you mention have items that have been unsold for months if not years in some cases. One has a hockey card that I was interested in back in 2012. The card is still there today. So what if the cards you "bought" were only just newly added. The hockey card I mentioned was also newly added at one time. I'm thinking OCD and collecting may not be the greatest combination. You are an impulse buyer. The fact that you couldn't wait for the coin deal to be finalized before going on a shopping frenzy illustrates this. Oh and by "finalized" I mean you actually have cash in hand. At the pace you're going you'll go through that $200K in no time! If that's ok with you then fill yer boots!

[Zone91]

By the way I have had multiple offers for cards here in private and refused 99% of them....why because I was honest saying they where not what I was looking for or the price was to high. If I was one to waste peoples time I would have told them all that I wanted their cards and to list them on Ebay and then not pay....but that is NOT the case.

[Zone91]

auggiedoggy

I have to say you are way to involved with your emotions with my purchases and paying methods.....these sales do not concern you in the least bit!!! I simply wanted to talk about cards not all the other crap!!!

I know my own personality and know what I can and can't afford....and always have food on my table and ALL my other monthly bills paid....oh yes and that my pet gets A1 treatment.

I make enough money not to worry about every little thing as you seem to do...you need to try YOGA!!!

[margoaepi]

Originally Posted by Zone91

Leon

Sorry Leon...I was just simply trying to protect my reputation here. I know the dealers will be paid....not the 1st time I buy something a week or 2 before I pay for it and most likely will not be my last.

Adrian,

What exactly do you think your reputation is? It might be something you want to consider.

[Zone91]

margoaepi

My reputation is when I buy something I pay for it and that does not mean I always use the NORM when it comes to payment methods. I do not play games with dealers and yes some times I do change my mind for another card a dealer has that I did not know about before making my 1st purchase.

[auggiedoggy]

Yes, big mistake on my part. Your threads are never-ending and exhausting and always seem to take the same downward spiral.

So, ... amuse-toi bien et bonne chance!

[margoaepi]

Originally Posted by Zone91

margoaepi

My reputation is when I buy something I pay for it and that does not mean I always use the NORM when it comes to payment methods. I do not play games with dealers and yes some times I do change my mind for another card a dealer has that I did not know about before making my 1st purchase.

You miss my point entirely. Best of luck with the hole you are digging.

[Zone91]

margoaepi

Some people actually like talking cards with me and a few don't that is always to be expected when dealing with human behavior. People ask for the truth then you tell them...then they feel they have the right to judge you....but hey humans have always been like (Always so quick to point the finger at someone else) that and this will not change. People ask have you paid for your cards yet....I say NO then all hell breaks lose that again is to be expected.

I get a lot of private messages with positive feedback every day so I know I do some good here!!!

[ullmandds]

you cancelled the e90-1 mitchell? after all that?

[Zone91]

ullmandds

Yes spoke to Brian (B&W sports cards) yesterday he was OK with it I told him I felt like I paid to much (2500$) but would be a buyer at 1500$-1750$ and that was that. I paid him his 90$ fees he owed Ebay and we are still on good terms. He knows I am a rookie with vintage cards and I make mistakes....he does not blow it up for more that what it is worth. He is not one to make a scene!!!

[joetinkerfan]

Adrian...Not sure how many times you will post while I'm typing this but since you made this post last night at 9:30pm you have posted 55 times! As it has been stated already, this thread could have been a good learning lesson about the t206 Murray card, but instead it is a multiple page thread of you attempting to defend your actions. You have to understand, most of us partake in this forum to read or talk about baseball cards..the history, variations of backs, ect..We don't come on here to see how many cards you have bought and then be told how much you spent on the cards. You are also way too sensitive..Every time someone comments you then have to post a response. Please, take a break, come back in a month or so..teach yourself some more about the cards before you make big purchases.

[Zone91]

joetinkerfan

If you ONLY knew how much I would ONLY like to talk about cards here and not all the other mess!!!

I have NO bad feelings towards anyone here!!!

[cubsfan-budman]

Adrian HAS to be the fastest ever to 500 posts (he's only 5 away right now!)...

I wonder if there's a way to find that out

[Zone91]

cubsfan-budman

Hahahaha never even looked at that.

[Runscott]

Originally Posted by Zone91

auggiedoggy
.....these sales do not concern you in the least bit!!! I simply wanted to talk about cards not all the other crap!!!

You brought your purchases to our attention in a DISCUSSION FORUM. What you, Eric and a few others don't realize, is that we're going to react by discussing this in any manner that we feel is appropriate (subject to communication rules placed by Leon).

Deal with it or don't post. Seriously - it's offensive to me when someone tells me that I don't have the right to post my opinion in a discussion forum. Last time I looked - opinions were a major part of discussion forums.

And if you don't like my opinion (above), tell me I'm full of crap - that's your opinion and your right as well. If I wasn't ready for a negative response, I wouldn't have just posted.

[Tao_Moko]

Adrian,

I think it's great you're doing what you want and you've put together a nice collection already. I've collected for 30 years and still don't see it an investment but a fun hobby when you know the history of the players, mfr's and advertisers. You are crazy as hell and your threads drive me mad but I'm the type that prefers that to the mundane so "do what thou wilst".

I just hope for your sake that you're not selling these cards at a loss in the near future or messing with someone elses livelihood in your rapid fire purchasing. You can always buy more silver and less cardboard.



Have fun,

Eric "Sideshow" Sharp

[Zone91]

Tao_Moko

Crazy as hell....hahahahaha just dropped my glass!!! No I will keep them if ever I get tired for a period of time I will just stop...I know the bug will come back and get me.

[Zone91]

Runscott

Yes you do have that right but I also should have the right to make what is right...well right.

[t206fix]

Zone - Can we get a scan of that coin? I want to see what the "Honus Wagner of Canadian Coins" looks like?

Man, what I wouldn't do for $200,000 in my paypal account right now!!!

[Zone91]

On another note the baseball movie called *61 about Manlte and Roger Marris is one hell of a good movie....watched it last evening.

[Zone91]

cardboardbliss

sure here you go....it was the picture used when I 1st purchased the coin:

http://www.canadiancoin.com/document...1_auction2.jpg

I got more than 200 000$ for it closer to 300 000$....otherwise it would be highway robbery and my friend is very fair. To be modest this is the best coin to own as far as Canadian coins go has always doubles in value over a 10 year period.

But much rather have my house paid off and no more crazy interest rates from my bank.

And for those following my post stats this is magic post # 500!!!

[MVSNYC]

Leon- is this the record to 500 posts?

[Runscott]

Originally Posted by Zone91

On another note the baseball movie called *61 about Manlte and Roger Marris is one hell of a good movie....watched it last evening.

I like this tactic - a thread within a thread to avoid the '2 new threads' limit

I loved that movie - it wasn't overproduced like '42', and had a much tighter script. Also, the casting for Maris and Mantle was spot-on.

It's always interesting to read board member's opinions on their favorite baseball movies - all sorts of variation as to what characteristics of a movie people like. I thought 'Bull Durham' was approaching rubbish status, but some of my friends who I respect heavily feel that it's the greatest of all baseball movies.

[Zone91]

Runscott

It was my 1st movie I watched about the Mick and truly a masterpiece!!!

I am looking forward to seen the movie 42 when it comes out for rent...I rather watch movies at my place than a theater.

Roger Maris is just to funny with the reporters in this movie....do you think you have a chance at Ruth's record...geez I don't know why not come ask me in a few months!!!

[barrysloate]

I really could care less what coins or baseball cards Adrian buys and sells, that's his business. What I don't like is that nearly every day he is the center of attention on at least one thread. As has been pointed out, he's posted 55 times here and has hit 500 posts in just a few weeks. I think it's time for a break.

[Matthew H]

Originally Posted by Tao_Moko

Adrian,

I think it's great you're doing what you want and you've put together a nice collection already. I've collected for 30 years and still don't see it an investment but a fun hobby when you know the history of the players, mfr's and advertisers. You are crazy as hell and your threads drive me mad but I'm the type that prefers that to the mundane so "do what thou wilst".

I just hope for your sake that you're not selling these cards at a loss in the near future or messing with someone elses livelihood in your rapid fire purchasing. You can always buy more silver and less cardboard.



Have fun,

Eric "Sideshow" Sharp

He hasn't actually purchased any cards yet... So there's no nice collection to comment on yet.

He has already reneged on some deals due to feedback, from here, on his "purchases". I would lose my patience, as a dealer, pretty quickly... I've stopped commenting on how good/bad his decisions have been because of this. I'm not trying to bash Adrian's reputation, I just feel like there is a possibility that Adrian will never own any of these cards, he might get the cash in hand and decide on a completely different group of cards.

-

[Cardboard Junkie]

Well, since this thread has gone all to hell anyway....Guys...SEE "The Kid From Cleveland" 1949 movie on Utube.....Tris Speaker, Satchell Paige, Feller, Lemon..on and on. Great Flick!! Lots of footage of 48 series. Dave

[Zone91]

Matthew H

Correction I have cancelled the E90-1 Caramel Mike Mitchell after been told I paid double the price I would cancel anything in this world again and again if I found out I paid double the going price...that is not crazy that is just smart business.

And I do have in my hands 2 of my T206 cards the PSA 4 Mathewson dark cap and BVG 4 Walter Johnson. So yes I have some cards already in hand....and yes I actually paid for them....and yes they waited about a week to be paid as well. One of my cards is on my fireplace mantel oh and I forgot I have a few Old Judge cards that arrived late last week. So I guess we can start calling this a collection as they say!!!

[bender07]

Originally Posted by Zone91

Matthew H

Correction I have cancelled the E90-1 Caramel Mike Mitchell after been told I paid double the price I would cancel anything in this world again and again if I found out I paid double the going price...that is not crazy that is just smart business.

And I do have in my hands 2 of my T206 cards the PSA 4 Mathewson dark cap and BVG 4 Walter Johnson. So yes I have some cards already in hand....and yes I actually paid for them....and yes they waited about a week to be paid as well.

Smart business would be doing the research before buying but who's counting?

[Zone91]

bender07

Yes I know but when paying double and canceling that purchase I believe that to is smart business.

[bender07]

Originally Posted by Zone91

Matthew H

Correction I have cancelled the E90-1 Caramel Mike Mitchell after been told I paid double the price I would cancel anything in this world again and again if I found out I paid double the going price...that is not crazy that is just smart business.

And I do have in my hands 2 of my T206 cards the PSA 4 Mathewson dark cap and BVG 4 Walter Johnson. So yes I have some cards already in hand....and yes I actually paid for them....and yes they waited about a week to be paid as well. One of my cards is on my fireplace mantel oh and I forgot I have a few Old Judge cards that arrived late last week. So I guess we can start calling this a collection as they say!!!

Originally Posted by Zone91

bender07

Yes I know but when paying double and canceling that purchase I believe that to is smart business.

That's actually covering your a$$ after making a poor business decision but who's counting.

[Zone91]

bender07

Yes it is....and I still call that a good business decision....simply after the fact!!!

Thanks to who...some of you guys here!!!

[Eric72]

Originally Posted by Zone91

...chances are if I had picked up a T206 Wagner I could not pay for it...

This guy might be willing to offer you a good price.

[bender07]

Originally Posted by Zone91

bender07

Yes it is....and I still call that a good business decision....simply after the fact!!!

Thanks to who...some of you guys here!!!

Crap, I got sucked into the Adrian vortex! The pull is mighty! I'm out.

[Zone91]

Eric72

Who is that guy? No I can't buy a T206 Wagner no matter how much I try to work it out on paper.

[Cardboard Junkie]

His moniker was "Flavious" , He was a big time jerk! Dave.

[Zone91]

Cardboard Junkie


Ah good to know!!!

[auggiedoggy]

[QUOTE=Eric72;1122133]This guy might be willing to offer you a good price.


Where are the white borders on that Wagner?