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Posted By: john/z28jd
<<<<<It's not Mussina's wins that get him in. It's his lack of losses. He's 117 games OVER .500! Every eligible pitcher who is +100 games over .500 is in the Hall. >>>> |
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Posted By: ROBERT ADAMS JR
His winning percentage is huge no doubt but compare his complete games and shutouts to Blyleven . 242 to 57 . 60 to 23 . |
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Posted By: ROBERT ADAMS JR
I am thinking that Mussina is the Jim Rice or Al Oliver of pitching . REALLY close , But ... |
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Posted By: Fred C
John, |
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Posted By: David Smith
Mussina doesn't have a lot of Losses because he didn't HAVE to Pitch a lot of Innings. |
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Posted By: Ed Hans
john/z, |
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Posted By: Anonymous
I think Mussina is a HOFer (personal Yankee bias), not sure he will get in and probably not first ballot but I think he was as consistant a pitcher over the past 2 decades as we have seen. marty |
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Posted By: packs
I think he will certianly get in, maybe even first ballot. Pitched in the AL East his whole career the toughest division in baseball during the steroid era. His lifetime ERA is nearly a full run below league average and he was consistently one of the top pitchers in the league. He almost had I think 3 perfect games as well that he lost in the 8th or 9th inning. Maybe they were no hitters but still impressive. |
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Posted By: Anonymous
I was batting 1000 here against Pop, let's not spoil my fabulous win over him! Dan |
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Posted By: D. Bergin
Here's a few Mussina years before he came to the mighty Yankees. |
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Posted By: Fred C
Ed, |
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Posted By: Anonymous
I've grown to like Mussina a lot over the years. |
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Posted By: Jon Canfield
I feel the comparisons to John and Blyleven are somewhat off-based. Let's but John and Blyleven in the AL East during the steriod (hitters) era and in a 5-man rotation and see how they compare. |
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Posted By: tbob
I can't understand why Bert Blyleven is not in the Hall. I loved Jim Kaat and he was a "very good pitcher" who should be in but I understand the reasons why he and Tommy John aren't. Don't agree with them but understand them. But Blyleven is different. He played on some horrible Twins teams. he wasn't there when Killebrew, Oliva and others were in their primes and he was a bulldog out there, pitching an astounding amount of complete games. He is generally felt to have had the best curveball of any pitcher in the modern era and is near the top in career strikeouts for all pitchers of all times. It makes me sick to see Sutton in and not Blyleven. If Pedro Martinez makes it, unless he has 4 or 5 20 game seasons in the future, I will puke... |
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Posted By: Fred C
Bob, |
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Posted By: howard
Tbob, I'm guessing that your post contained at least some hyperbole but do you believe that Jim Kaat has a better hall of fame case than Pedro Martinez? |
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