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BODA accuses "thousands" of modern cards being sold currently.
https://www.blowoutforums.com/showthread.php?t=1336745
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That seems to be the mentality?
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Still can't believe PSA hasn't recalled slabs owned by some of these high volume submitters... and continuing to let known scammers have grading privileges to continue scamming the collecting community.
Tone deaf. The potential refunds keep mounting. And where are these cards selling through? More liability to the PWCC reimbursement guarantee, fencing cards for a known trimmer. Recall the hat in hand Brent post from 6 months ago: Quote:
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Some of the largest comc submitters were show to be trimming everything. From a 2 dollar base card up. And why not? PSA cant detect and for 10 seconds work you can turn a 5 dollar bill into a 20 or 50 dollar bill. Some will get rejected or damaged in the process but it is an incredibly easy way to make money.
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https://www.blowoutforums.com/showthread.php?t=1336944
From BODA: ALERT: Heritage Selling Trimmed PSA 8 1916 Sporting News Jim Thorpe- ENDS TONIGHT
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At this point is there anybody who does not believe PSA* and Beckett* are 100% in on it? At this point with the small % of the bad cards in SGC holders I will pull a PSA supporter and say it could be human error. Admittingly they do seem to be going down hill fast. *at minimum they have employees in on it |
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Ironic typo in the Heritage description of the Thorpe card...
Jim Thorpe is regraded as one of the top athletes of the 20th Century. |
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Trimmed or not how is this a 10?
Top bottom centering? Back centering? https://www.blowoutforums.com/showpo...&postcount=197
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is it time to just start viewing everything as trimmed? or, just buy items in an "A" slab, and take the eye sweet at a massive value?
right now, my perception is that a PSA 10 and a PSA "A" are at this point, the same thing, so just pay less and buy the trimmed card that is admittedly trimmed, over the fraudulent 10 at a massive premium, that's likely also trimmed. |
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Looking through the entire thread, there's a lot of 8's and 8.5's getting either 9's and 10's on some 50 to 70 year old cards which should be a red flag in itself. Again, why are all these seemingly pristine cards suddenly surfacing in droves? The old adage "If it's too good to be true..." seems to apply quite nicely in this case.
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[QUOTE=phikappapsi;1936527]is it time to just start viewing everything as trimmed? or, just buy items in an "A" slab, and take the eye sweet at a massive value?
right now, my perception is that a PSA 10 and a PSA "A" are at this point, the same thing, so just pay less and buy the trimmed card that is admittedly trimmed, over the fraudulent 10 at a massive premium, that's likely also trimmed.[/QUOTE You're right. All PSA is now is an envapsulator in my mind. They simply slab cards. |
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We all probably should have been doing this all along. Doing one's own homework on a card regardless if it is slabbed or raw is probably the best course of action and make a purchasing decision based on this information.
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They say youre a 4 but we don't know
A chemical bath and watch that number grow Well I don't know if all that's true 'A rebuilt corner, and baby I got you A bump Babe I got you a bump babe I got you a bump babe |
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Thanks for Chering.
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Green Cobb "vaults" ahead with a wrinkle removal.
https://www.blowoutforums.com/showpo...9&postcount=28
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Red Cobb, SGC 5.5, formerly PSA altered, in PWCC.
https://www.blowoutforums.com/showthread.php?t=1337657
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Altered Cards
Serious question here -
Does anyone know what these " card doctors" charge to do their " magic" ? Ive seen loads of cards that get worked on, then get a huge bump in price, but what about the cards that end up getting " just : a $500-$1000 increase...,is a profit made on those ? Does the " doctor " have a price list - cleaning - 350, trimming 650, recoloring.etc... Always wondered about that ?? |
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Dick Towle offers his services to customers. His work and people's views of it have been discussed at length.
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fair enough - i meant the people doing it in secret. like moser (not a well kept secret, but he's attempting (successfully) to defraud. at least these guys are telling the world they're doing it - on the front end at least. wish their work came with a watermark.
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I'm not even putting any of his auctions on my watch list.
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Red Cobb 17K, sure hope it was not in fact altered as PSA graded it.
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There's a small spot upper left ish in the background that might be recolored. I just can't tell from the scan, even that really nice scan.
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Obviously, these guys are making money with the trimming and modifying .
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Hatchet job on a 52T Rosen.
https://www.blowoutforums.com/showpo...&postcount=438
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And a 4K corner job on another 52T.
https://www.blowoutforums.com/showpo...&postcount=444
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So disgusting. How are those 8s? This certainly doesn't help some of the "on the fence if there is an insider at PSA grading these cards crowd)...which I am.
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