Corner of T206 Plank

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Posted By: Adam

Wow, this thing is going to go for over 40k with the b.p.

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Posted By: marshall barkman

What PSA should do is purchase this card and then at the National crack it out in front of whoever wants to watch and re-grade the card with their head grader. If the card was put in a Authentic (trimmed) holder it would speak volumes for the hobby and the integrity of the company. When Ben Hogan started the Ben Hogan Golf Company in 1953 he scrapped the first sets of irons which were valued at 100,000 all of which was out of his own pocket. He spoke to every person involved in regards to the building of the blades and would not tolerate imperfections or alignment issues with the clubhead. The Ben Hogan Company then set a standard in the industry for accountability and their blade dominated the PGA Tour for the the next three decades. Perhaps Mr. Orlando could learn a lesson from the old master that sometimes one step back can get you three steps forward. >

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Posted By: Matt

Lee - that's a beautiful card!

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Posted By: dan mckee

Marshall, I hear ya brother! I can appreciate what you are suggesting but it isn't going to happen. PSA fought me tooth and nail over $5k. They are not just going to reslab this Authentic and eat the huge difference. Bottom border is hacked in my opinion. Dan.

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Posted By: Lee Behrens

I guess there is a little confusion on the D. M., it stands for an old time collector Don McPhearson.

Lee

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Posted By: peter ullman

Another PSA abomination...righting this example will not instill any confidence in me in any way that PSA is trying to better the hobby...they've done the opposite. Lee...I thought your e94 Wags was violet? Hmmm?

Pete Ullman

ps...the road to hell is paved with good intentions.

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Posted By: dan mckee

I think righting this would sure do better than not righting it. I would love to eat my words but it ain't gonna happen.

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Posted By: Jamie

You Guys seem to know alot about plank cards, I have one and need some help. How can you tell if it is real? Also did they have any reprints for the 1909 t206 card? What size should they be? Any help would be greatly appreciated. Thanks

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Posted By: Marty Ogelvie

Jamie,

Providence.. were did you get yours? that should tell you if its real or not. There are many reprint sets of the T206 cards.

Marty

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Posted By: dan mckee

Size is meaningless if you know anything at all about T206 cards. They came in many sizes which really messes with the grading idiots. My set was comprised in the 1970s before people started trimming cards and I can tell you that there are at least 20 different sized legit cards in my set. 3rd party grading is a complete joke!

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Posted By: dan mckee

Remember though, if it is graded, it is legit and unaltered!! PRICELESS!!!!!

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Posted By: peter ullman

Yes...I also have heard all of the real Plank cards come from Providence. (insert smiley face here!)

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Posted By: dan mckee

That was great Peter, I decided to lay off of that gimme

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Posted By: Rob D.

Dan,

Forgetting for a moment the whole grading thing, you say "in the 1970s before people started trimming cards." Though I agree that hardly anyone from that era would have trimmed a card to improve the appearance of its condition, don't you agree that trimming cards for other non-nefarious reasons (sizing them to fit in an album, box, etc.) wasn't all that uncommon long before big money entered the hobby?

I know that a number of cards from various issues in Lionel Carter's collection were deemed trimmed, and I think most would agree that he likely didn't trim them and that some of them had been in his collection for many years before the grading frenzy hit.

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Posted By: dan mckee

Yes Rob, cards were cut down for obvious reasons back then but not to deceive and were very easily noticed to be cut down. Not hidden. Dan.

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Posted By: dan mckee

There is no way every card in my T206 set was trimmed down by owners to fit things, they were factory cut many different sizes no question. Having a designated size for T206 cards is a joke. And so is 3rd party grading, a joke.

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Posted By: Rob D.

My mistake for even bringing it up. Should have known better. Wasn't questioning any of your cards, Dan, merely the belief that no one trimmed cards -- for whatever reason -- before grading came along.

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Posted By: dan mckee

I agree Rob, you are completely correct. And a great point, cards were cut down back then for other reasons. Just not to deceive so it was usually very obvious. I agree with your statement, Dan.

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Posted By: marshall barkman

Dan....you are right. The gentleman's son whom i bought 250 t-206 cards said the cards were in a cigar box under the bed for 90 years. The cards were never out and no one knew about them but immediate family. They were all sizes including some longer ones but when looped one could easily tell there was no trimming. PSA still deemed 3 cards to be trimmed but i knew better but they were commons so it was not that big of a deal.