Question about value of T206 card

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Posted By: MVSNYC

george- i try to be very careful about what i post (privacy-wise). i think many others will agree.

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Posted By: Dave F

Me on the other hand...very upfront and showboating the beater T206's I have. I welcome the "crook". If he chooses to come in past the alarm system I'll be sitting in my recliner with my 45. Who say's southerner's don't like confrontations? LOL

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Posted By: MVSNYC

...no gun, but 3 attack dogs in a 350 sq. ft. apartment.

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Posted By: John

George doesn’t have to break any security protocols to share info on the collection, in fact he’s told us quite a bit to date. Not to mention I don’t think there are many crews that can knock off a bank and casually load a semi George so I think your ok.

I have this mental picture of guy under a mound of plastic screw-downs in a ski mask screaming my back, my freakin back!

What I assume that would be neat to know to guys like Scot Reader, Ted and myself included would be the breakdown of these T206’s. 6000 cards are almost 30% of Scot’s original study of 20,000 plus T206 front and back combos. I think that guys like Scot and the rest of us would find that very, very interesting. And the 1300+ 19th century baseball any unknown poses in OJ etc, I’m a sure a guy like Jay Miller would be very interested in that discussion. Those are more of the particulars I think most of us would be interested in, not where you live etc.

Hoping you share sometime.

Best Regards,

John

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Posted By: Dave F

I'm sure it wouldn't happen..but if someone like George managed to throw 6,000 plus T206's into the buying world, would that be enough to lower values for any as such? Assuming George would have 40-50 Dahlen Brooklyn's for example?

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Posted By: Steve M.

I'm still trying to figure out where I can get screw down holders that are 1/5th of an inch thick.

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Posted By: John

Steve I was measuring a PSA type holder, which is slightly smaller than the standard 1/4, 1/2 and 1" bricks of my youth etc... If you’re really interested and the above wasn’t an attempt at sarcasm.


I looked into this whole measurement thing quite sometime ago regarding my T206's being graded. 4 SGC cards equal just about an inch and about 5 for PSA's . Space was big concern as I more than likely couldn’t fit them in the box once graded.....

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Posted By: Steve M.

Actually, it was.

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Posted By: ScottIngold

Dylan,

I think what some here are trying to say is. If you don't have something constructive to add, than let someone more knowledgable do it.

I find that i am much better off just reading this board to increase my education in this great hobby.... when i do have something to add or want to respond to a few who enjoy busting on me i try to keep it light.

Believe me i understand the sceptics here. My first post was called into question regarding a T206 Maggie i had....... Thats what got some going on the whole Tuckerton thing.

Even though John and Kevin KNOW i live in Little Egg Harbor, and we have the best dentists in the state. Right ?

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Posted By: Kevin Cummings

Scott:

Far be it from me to question the relative merits of the dentists in your area (me being from north Jersey, I usually leave that to south Jersey guys like John), but I just Googled "dentist" and "Little Egg Harbor" and one of the returned values had an advertisment that also listed his expertise in taxidermy, extermination, landscaping and mortuary science. I'll let the board decide.

And while I'm posting I might as well toss my hat in the ring about George. I'm not even going to get into the "does he have them or doesn't he" debate. If he does, as an Old Judge collector I'm damned envious of someone with 1300+ 19th century cards. I am just questioning why someone who apparently assiduously guarded his participation in the hobby all these years all of a sudden decided to out himself. He certainly could have just participated on the board without revealing his seemingly vast holdings.

But don't get me wrong - someone who might have even half of what George claims has to have been around the block a few times and can add a wealth of knowledge to an already valuable source of information for our hobby.

Kevin

[edited for spelling]

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Posted By: Ted Zanidakis

Sorry, I'm late in responding to your question.

But, maybe we can try to get this Thread back on the main track....as, it has been switched onto a spur
to "oshkosh".

I'm a Lindy fan, also....have to show-off my Lindaman cards. My EPDG is the only one I've seen. So, if you
have 3 EPDG Lindaman's you are defying statistical probability. Speaking about EPDG cards, a year ago we
had a tremendous Thread (by Barry Arnold) that you should search for. You will find it very informative on
such matters as you are asking about. The various surveys in this Thread, as Scot Reader noted in his post
here, also revealed that Ames (Hands/chest), Ewing and possibly Schulte (front view) may not exist with
"350 backs".

The above noted six cards are actually easier to find with an EPDG or a HINDU than a Piedmont 350 back.

Lundgren (Cubs) is sort of a unique card in the T206 set. Next to the "Big Six", I think he is the 7th in line
of "toughness".

If you have any more questions that get down into the "nitty-gritty" of this set, I'll try to answer them. And,
if I cannot, I'm sure Scot Reader can.

Best Regards,

TED Z

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Posted By: George Dreher

Dave, I only have three of that particular card. I doubt it would be possible for anyone to accumulate 40-50 of it.

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Posted By: MVSNYC

george is right...Dahlen, is another one that is tuffer than people think. someone just sold a PSA 8oc (Harris Collection) for $2200 on eBay, i was watching it, was gonna pull the trigger, but someone else beat me to it, i think they got a super deal...

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Posted By: Ted Zanidakis

Do one of those Dahlen's have a Sovereign 350 back ?

I need that one for my set.

TED Z

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Posted By: Scott

Speaking of dentists, I just paid $122 for my 2 year old to have a dentist spend 10 minutes cleaning his teeth. Valuable card money spent in the wrong direction. Should I find a new dentist? or is that a fair price?

Sorry for the off topic.

Scott (ubiqty)

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Posted By: George Dreher

No, they are Old Mill, Piedmont and Sweet Caporal.
I bid on a Sovereign a while back and was sniped.

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Posted By: Ted Zanidakis

My Piedmont Dahlen is rough and I need an upgrade....would you be interested in selling or trading yours ?

Trading for any other T206 you might need.

TED Z

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Posted By: barry arnold

Welcome aboard, George.
I'm glad that you're still swimming with us, even when the waters get
rough. It's worth the effort, I assure you---a fine bunch of colleagues is the reward.
You may even find the wonderful appellation 'dinosaur' coming your way.
I know TRex cherishes his and I continue to like herbivore Barry as
my own.
By the way, TRex, my Lindaman is EPDG as well. A great ride!

all the best,

Barry

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Posted By: John

Ted,

Looks like you just missed one...

http://cgi.ebay.com/T206-Bill-Dahlen-Brooklyn-SGC-60-Sovereign-Back_W0QQitemZ300092071751QQcategoryZ57993QQssPage NameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

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Posted By: George Dreher

I have raw T206 cards here at the house that I was planning to get graded very soon. The Piedmont Dahlen is only a PSA-1 and would involve a trip to the bank.
Maybe we can deal if you are interested in raw T206? Of course, this conversation should probably be off the board and that would involve revealing my true identity and home address. I'm not very keen on doing that.

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Posted By: ScottIngold

Ted,

Brown Hindu for me. As well as epdg.

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Posted By: ScottIngold

Wow .... raw ? But Ted hates raw. Only slabed for him

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Posted By: barrysloate

George- are you saying that George Dreher is not your real name?

This keeps getting more mysterious.

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Posted By: Ted Zanidakis

I was beat out on that one.

TED Z

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Posted By: barry arnold

With Barry, let me encourage you to swim through clearer waters so
that mysteries may give rise to the beauty of vintage cards.

all the best,

Barry

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Posted By: Ted Zanidakis

For my sets I only collect "naked" cards. If you are willing to part with a graded or ungraded card,
it is immaterial to me....as, I will "free" the card from its plastic when I get it.
Also, I need 42 Sovereign's to complete my 4th set. If you can help me, I'd really appreciate it.

I have a PO Box address for all my hobby dealings.....it's the safest way to operate. If you want
to email me......

tedzan11@comcast.net

TED Z

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Posted By: John

“let me encourage you to swim through clearer waters so
that mysteries may give rise to the beauty of vintage cards.”

Lucky Numbers 4,17,45,8,23

Hey I got that in a fortune cookie the other night.

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Posted By: T206Collector

Lucky numbers are always listed in fortune cookies in numerical order. The presence of 8 and 23 following 45 reveals the mistruthiness of all of your posts.

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Posted By: MVSNYC

this is a real fortune i got last week (I swear!)

"Never smell the inside of a hat".

Luck Numbers 7, 11, 13, 26, 42, 46

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Posted By: John

Caught me Paul! Or did you perhaps I have a one of a kind fortune misprint, interested in buying it???

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Posted By: John

Mike that’s not a fortune that’s just plain good advice.

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Posted By: Dan Bretta

Wonka, those first two numbers are my birthday -April 17th. Do you mind if I use those on my pick 5?

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Posted By: T206Collector

...I collect are ones that are completely blank on both sides. I'll pay you top dollar for any blank front/back fortune cookie fortunes. And before you start sending me thousands of little pieces of cut up printer paper, let me assure you that I can tell whether a piece of paper was once sitting inside a fortune cookie.

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Posted By: MVSNYC

Paul- i hear they can "skin" them now, to create a fake "blank back"...

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Posted By: T206Collector

...that is true; and to make matters worse, the skinned fortune cookie blank front/back fortunes are very hard to detect with natural light. This was Burdick's most critical omission from the Standard Catalog of Useless Paper.

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Posted By: George Dreher

Barry, yes the chances are high. If you do a Yahoo people search, you can often pull up a person's home address and telephone number.

Ted, do you need Bobby Wallace in a Sovereign?

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Posted By: Matthew

Thank you for the response. Don't really know how I ended up with all the Lindaman EPDGs. And yes, I found Barry's thread on EPDG back interesting. As a matter of fact, a trade between Barry & me (hi Barry) resulted in his 1st EPDG back -- you guessed it, Lindaman.

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Posted By: barry arnold

Hi Matthew!!!
I remember well our trade and continue to be most grateful for the
Lindaman EPDG. It's a beaut.

all the best,

Barry

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Posted By: Cobby33

Maybe he's Mr. X.

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Posted By: George Dreher

I sent you an email regarding the Sovereign backs you need.