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Posted By: Brent Butcher
Financially, the offer isn't unreasonable BUT what about the guy 5 years down the road that buys this card as ex to ex+? |
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Posted By: Judge Dred (Fred)
Just for educations sake, can we see a scan of this card. |
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Posted By: andy becker
josh, i know you are kidding, and i know i am exposing myself (not litterally, that would be bad )...but i, and many other reputable sellers would take a card back after an extended period. |
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Posted By: Josh K.
Brent, I think the suggestion was to get that card graded by sgc/psa/gai as authentic. at least that way future purchasers are protected (unless, of course, a dishonest person buys it and cracks it out). |
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Posted By: davidcycleback
As far as returns go, I feel that the buyer should be able to on his own (or with the help of friends) determine if the grade is acceptable within a short period of time. Meaning, if a collector need three months time and a pro grader to judge the grade, the buyer should find a different hobby. The same goes for obvious defects (pen mark across back) |
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Posted By: JimCrandell
Keith, |
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Posted By: Sandiegowill
Thanks for all of your input. More than I expected but of excellent quality and impressively rational (remember - I live on Ebay and folks there aren't always so cogent). |
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Posted By: Tom L.
Comment: I purchased 2 U.S. Caramels from Alan Hager back around 1992. Both came back as trimmed from SGC years later. Hager was out of business by then, and my loss, right? Well, when I saw him on EBay a couple of years ago, I contacted him about the cards. His response: send them back for a full refund. I'll be damned if I didn't get a full refund from him within a week (I can't remember the amount now, but it was around $800). I know he has taken a lot of [well-deserved] punches in the hobby, including from me, but that was a much better response than I have gotten from several other dealers with great reputations on this board (and under circumstances where a refund was completely warranted under any reasonable definition). I had no reason to expect a refund, yet he provided one almost 10 years later. Just a data point . . . |
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Posted By: JimCrandell
Will, |
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Posted By: Jim Clarke
Will, |
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Posted By: Josh K.
As long as we are sharing stories, some of you may remember not to long ago I won a psa 3 e95 plank that SGC deemed to be trimmed when I tried to cross it over. Despite the fact that the card was never cracked out of the psa slab and could have been resold for nearly the full amount that I paid (I know b/c I did so with full disclosure), the seller, bbcardstor, refused to take the card back and issue me a refund. |
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Posted By: barry arnold
Top drawer decision, Will. |
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Posted By: Dan Koteles
I bought some Cracker Jacks from Wil Hays and he stated that he would "go out of his way" to say that they were factory miscut and not trimmed, well certainly they were TRIMMED and when I called stating that they were sent in and came back that way.... w/o even mentioning that I was holding him at all responsible ,he snapped at me. |
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Posted By: Al Crisafulli
Will: |
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Posted By: Dan Koteles
integrity and honesty are what is most important. Our comments and expieriences are based on just that. |
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Posted By: Al Crisafulli
Dan, I edited my post almost immediately after I wrote it, but yes, I feel that way. |
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Posted By: Scott Forrest
Charlie - You said that to you it involved 3 people. Actually, if you use that logic, it involves everyone up to the point that it was trimmed, which might have been before any of us were born. |
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Posted By: Brent Butcher
Will and I have come to an acceptable agreement and I'm sorry for having to bring this "before the board." Thanks for all of your inputs and I think both Will and I have learned something from this. |
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Posted By: Julie Vognar
was trimmed on all four sides, I should have tried to return it to Kit Youing (it was 6 months later), instead of trading it to Ben--as a trimmed card--from whom it was stolen... |
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Posted By: Hal Lewis
Maybe Kit wanted the evidence back so that he could never be accused of trimming... |
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Posted By: Ted Zanidakis
WILL HAYS |
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