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Old 05-18-2003, 04:24 PM
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Posted By: petecld

Just seemed silly that two people who were guilty of the same "style" of describing cards were going at each other.

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Old 05-18-2003, 04:31 PM
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Posted By: petecld

Thank you Scott. I thought after all your research into T206 printing that you learned something which is why I said "your know better." I even gave you my thoughts. I guess you didn't learn anything. Thank you for correcting me.

If we do have issues I didn't realize it. Please email me directly - I like to know what they are.

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Old 05-18-2003, 05:22 PM
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Posted By: BROOKS

YOU WISH TO RETIRE FROM THIS DISCUSSION AS YOU CANNOT COME UP WITH THE ANSWERS TO MY QUESTIONS.
1. YOU SOLD ME THAT CARD KNOWING IT WAS TRIMMED BUT DID NOT DESCRIBE IT THAT WAY IN YOUR AUCTION. YOU ONLY STATED THAT TO ME AFTER I SUBMITTED IT TO PSA.THESE ARE YOUR WORDS FROM AN EARLIER BOARD POSTING.Okay Brooks - you asked for it May 16 2003, 8:50 AM

You are flat out lying. You told me that you sent the Lennox Reulbach t206 and several other cards to PSA, and they came back as "trimmed". I told you in advance that they were trimmed and that the Lennox was sold to me as trimmed, so you obviously were trying to screw people when you sold it without mentioning that it was trimmed. So that makes you a liar.

2. I POSTED THE CARD BEFORE IT WAS SUBMITTED NOT KNOWING IT WAS TRIMMED AND IT WAS NOT SOLD AS YOU CLAIM.

3.WITH ALL YOUR FALSE ACCUSATIONS YOU HAVE YET TO PROVIDE A BUYER OR ITEM #

4. AS I ONLY HAVE ONE ID IT IS IMPOSSIBLE TO BID ON MY OWN LISTINGS THE LAST I CHECKED.

5. THIS CARD HAS NOT BEEN LISTED SINCE IT CAME BACK FROM PSA AND YOU WERE INFORMED.

I HAVE ANSWERED ALL OF YOUR ALLEGATIONS AND YET YOU CONTINUE TO AVOID MINE. STEP UP TO THE PLATE SCOTT AND EITHER ADMIT YOU ARE A LIAR OR PROVIDE SOME SUBSTANTATING EVIDENCE TO SUPPORT YOUR BOGUS ALLEGATIONS. YOU SIR ARE GUILTY OF WHAT YOU ARE ACCUSING ME OF WITH THE TRIMMED CARDS AND YOU SIR ARE THE ONE WHO SOLD IT TO ME IN GOOD FAITH .STAY RETIRED FROM THIS DISCUSSION,THAT YOU INITIATED, IF YOU CANNOT DO ANYTHING BUT CRAWFISH


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Old 05-18-2003, 05:35 PM
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Posted By: jay behrens

I still want to know why you are continueing to dodge the issue that started this whole thread:

WHAT DID BCD DO THAT IS SO OBVIOUS TO YOU, BUT NOT TO ANYONE ELSE ON THIS BOARD?

Try answering that question first, then we can worry about scott's symantics once you've cleared yourself.

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Old 05-18-2003, 07:42 PM
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Posted By: BROOKS

OBVIOUSLY YOU DID NOT READ MNY EARLIER REPLY TO THAT QUERY JAY. I DID NOT SUSPEND BCD,
EBAY DID. ALL I DID WAS QUESTION HIS SUSPECT BIDDING PRACTICES OF BIDDING AGAINST HIS HIMSELF WITH DIFFERENT ID'S. YOU SHIFTED HORSES IN MID-STREAM AS YOU INITIALLY ASKED ME TO REPLY TO SCOTTS' ALLEGATIONS, WHICH I DID. FURTHERMORE I AM NOT CONCERNED WETHER YOU BID ON ANY OF MY AUCTIONS OR NOT AS IT IS VERY CLEAR FROM YOUR BIAS RESPONSES THAT YOUR MIND IS ALREADY MADE UP AND NOTHING I SAY WILL CHANGE IT,NOR WILL I TRY

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Posted By: julie

Alleghenys are hand cut--I see no purpose in calling a cut-off, even messily--card "hand cut" when it is "trimmed." "sloppily trimmed" is also an alternative. And then to claim that you have told someone that a card is "trimmed" when what you have told him is that it's "hand cut" is--sort of dishonest.

In other words, since hand cut has other than bad connotations, it seems unwise and not honest to use it as as substitute for trimmed.

I long ago decided that BCD was too smart for me to keep up with...

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No Crying-ain't crying and after the investigation concludes i'll bet your sorry ass will be off E-bay for sending your "INTERFERENCE" LETTER to all who bid on "Sportsalley24's" auctions just because the guy lives two towns away from me. YES BROOK,IT IS AGAINST THE RULES TO SEND PEOPLE LETTERS WARNING THEM OF YOUR THEORIES ABOUT PEOPLE WHO BID WITH MORE THAN ONE HANDLE--- These guys should have the last laugh on your pathetic blind ass and they won't need to bother about other's bidding on your left over junk from the collections of people with knowledge on card collecting,a novelty you do not even do! YOU CALL OTHER'S ON HERE A LIAR!!! *************** LET'S SEE YOU PUBLICALLY DENY SENDING YOUR WARNING LETTER TO ALL WHO BID ON CARDSS YOU THINK WERE MINE! LET'S SEE IT IN PRINT. SOON,YOU WILL BE TOAST AND AGAIN REGAIN TOP SPOT AS THE LAUGH OF THIS BOARD. YOU USED AN INNOCENT SELLER TO TRY AND DO HARM TO ME AND HE TOO WILL FILE ON YOU FOR INTERFERENCE OF HIS AUCTIONS!!! NOW WHAT WILL YOU DO WITH THOSE WELFARE CHECKS TO TRY AND COME UP WITH ENOUGH COIN TO PAY FOR YOUR FRUIT LOOPS AND TRIMMED CARD DIET? AND BY THE WAY,YOU DID NOT POST CARDS "IN" EBAY BUT "ON" E-BAY *** *****.

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Old 05-19-2003, 03:22 AM
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Posted By: jay berhens

Brooks, you have not ansered the question beyond you think it's suspicious. How so? No one else but you seems to think so.

As for you thinking you can't change my mind about you, your loss. I used think MW was a total arse, but he's done things to change my mind.
it's up toy ou to chamge your image. If you don't want to, that's your choice. But bad word of mouth ina small community like this is not a good thing.

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Posted By: BROOKS

NO PROBLEM GARBAGE MOUTH HEAR IS A COPY OF WHAT I SENT,THAT IN NO WAY GIVES THEORY OR IMPEDES AN AUCTION BUT RATHER STATES THE FACTS WHICH SEEM TO UPSET YOU GREATLY.

"JUST A FRIENDLY FYI REGARDING THE SGC GRADED CARDS YOU ARE,AND I WAS, BIDDING ON FROM "SPORTSALLEY24". THE "SPLENDID-SPLINTER*" AND "NO-CRYING-IN-BASEBALL" ARE ONE IN THE SAME PERSON AND BIDDING AGAINST THEMSELVES .......OH YEAH HE IS FROM SAN FRANCISCO TOO.......JUST THOUGHT YOU MAY LIKE TO KNOW .........REGARDS BROOKS"

IS THAT HONEST ENOUGH FOR YOU FOUL-MOUTH

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Posted By: Jerry

Well, I guess no one wants to explain to me what is the crux of the issue here about any problem with the bidding, BUT THANKS FOR CAPITALIZING YOUR POSTS SO THAT I COULD READ THEM BETTER!

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who cannot seem to get it through his "airfull" brain that I do not have pony tail you prejudice redneck clog. This letter of yours is an admission of guilt as IT IS NOT AGAINST ANY RULES TO BID ON ANY ITEM WITH MULTIPLE HANDLES HOWEVER,IT IS AGAINST E-BAY RULES TO WRITE SUCH A LETTER TO ALL AND EVERY UNBIDDER OF ONES AUCTIONS AS YOU DID! Auctions someone else ran and you impeded. You will be bounced then no LONGER being a member of e-bay any longer,SUED by ME! : ) And we will have some fun at a great cost to you and your welfare savings, what little you have being absorbed by legal representation (of an inferrior nature)! : ) Being the extreme jerk you are is fine,interfering with my account without factual cause and my auctuions being canceled,is not!We will see what becomes of this in the end.You'll find out what a little knowledge of law will do to you buddy boy.You want to play,we will see if you have the power to go the distance which of course Schnook,you do not! And no stupid,you can not request a public defender for a Civil action. : ) have fun "trying" to outbid me today as you are on everything you really cannot afford Brook,your days doing so are numbered. When your number comes up***,I can't wait for the lid to come down!

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Old 05-19-2003, 12:57 PM
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what is the point of contention here. If Daniels is bidding in his own auctions, that is taboo. If he uses one of his user ids to bid in one of his auctions in which another of his user ids is listed as seller, that is prohibited action. If there is an explicit agreement to bid in someone else's auction, simply to be a shill bidder, that is forbidden. But if I understand correctly, he bid in someone else's auction with different user ids. Unless it can be proven that the buyer and seller cooperated to affect the bidding, and I see no proof which has mentioned here of that, only multiple use of user ids, as I read the ebay regs, there is no violation. Unless I am missing something here, I don't see where Brian has done anything wrong. Knowing how Brian likes to bookmark auctions by placing a minimal bid so he can watch the action, I think it is entirely possible that he did this with one user id to watch it with his "nocryinginbaseball" my ebay page and then decided to place another minimal bid so he could watch the action on his "splendidsplinter" my ebay page. It's also highly possible he bid on a card with one user id, then was outbid and used his other user id to raise the bid. All of these actions would be completely legitimate.
Maybe I am missing something here and I know Brian can be a "tad" abrasive in his posts and emails at times, but I don't see that he did anything wrong here.

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Posted By: BROOKS

LIKE I SAID BEFORE BRIAN YOU'RE ALL BLOW AND NO GO......WHAT WILL THIS MAKE YOU? ABOUT 0 FOR EVER IN THE ODLE THREAT DEPARTMENT

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1. Most board members seem to feel that Brian Daniels did nothing wrong, and that Brooks was simply acting out a personal vendetta on him, and the fact that his ebay accounts have been re-instated bear this out. The fact that some board members supported Brooks' attack, hopefully is simply because he is old and usually likeable, and/or because they don't like Brian, and does not reflect their support of his deceptive advertising.

2. Most board members also seemed to understand the point I was making about Brooks selling trimmed cards without mentioning it in his description - you missed it, but I'm not surprised. I showed current examples of auctions I am running that describe a card as "trimmed", and another as "hand-cut", so obviously I feel like I am able to use both of these terms. My examples were clear enough that you, being intelligent, certainly could understand.

3. Yes, Pete, your responses to many of my posts in the past where I was really looking forward to a thought-out response (from You, as opposed to someone less knowledgeable), have stunned me in that they are often sarcastic and attacking, rather than informative. I thought I had misunderstood your intentions, but after seeing what you posted in this thread, I'm sure I was right to begin with. You get upset and protective any time someone else offers insight into an area that you think is your "territory". In other words, if you didn't think of it, then it must be wrong. This is a personal problem for you and I would appreciate it if you would play it out in some other forum, perhaps with members of your new target audience - you could become an expert in air-brushing techniques, or discuss other definitions of "trim": http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=14433&item=2174598454

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Old 05-19-2003, 05:04 PM
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Posted By: runscott

I really wish you would read the previous posts before you reply to things on this board. Go back, please, and do that - then come back and tell me I am "not honest".

Meanwhile, you have a check for $55 coming - I have no intention of doing business with anyone who considers me to be dishonest.

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Posted By: Brian C Daniels

I'd refer to you as commonly drunk but I suspect your bidding history would validate you could not afford to buy the alcohol.This would be giving you much too much credit. You best go bid on things you can not afford again before this weeks e-bay news catches up to you. Sportsalley24 has also informed me he is reporting "the" letter you sent to everyone as blatant auction interference.The true issue at present aside from your trimmed up junk you sell.Three people on this board,including myself have had you as the only person to ever return cards.To noe guy,it was because you could not afford to keep it! What an asset to card collecting-not!

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Brooks & Dumb, born in 1939, The Chinese year of the Jackass cannot phathom the idea of having more than one computer,handle or IP and/or place to bid from because he is stupid,short sighted and only in the cards to try and scam money.He does not even collect cards.At least when I fight with pete I can fully respect the fact that he too loves cards and has knowledge concerning cards. Brooks has neither a collection nor knowledge and gets psanked blue by many on this board for it.Instead of taking in the offered info he has to claw and jab at collector,history lovers like Scott for such insignificant things as if "hand cut" & "trimmed" might be considered the same thing or not.Piles of chaep shots will not change the reality of these threads. I did not violate any rule concerning bidding on a pile of SGC T-206's consistant with my bidding habits for alomost five years now,Brook being blind and having no idea what a trimmed card is ( as measuring the card is not the way to determine if a card is trimmed and is only thought so in prehistoric and crude methodology)and does not have the spine to admit he does not know when confronted with facts.So what does he do? Squirms to e-bay for punitive help,blames his bologna on others and whines on this board with zero contribution other than a monthly defense for selling cards tossed to him like scraps of fat from a steak to a junkyard dog all the while living in a fog and revision of history and lack of understanding in his dirty tumbleweed home waiting for the next fool to send him a check for his trimmed up crap he misrepresented and sold.Brook,have someone drive you around the corner to a library and read to you for a while on this hobby you choose not to collect in. and stop by the 7/11 for a bottle of stamina RX so you have something to do while they read to you.Brail will not help you detect trimmed cards either........but then again I am sure you do not know brail either.

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I learned that answering your questions wasn't worth my time and I'll never make that mistake again. I'm sorry I EVER gave you the benefit of my experience - not my "insight" but my experience. We never discussed religion, we discussed the printing process - there are rights and wrongs. I sorry you were wrong on a few points and I wasn't some yes-man there to sooth your ego and justify the money you spent. I sorry you spent a sum of money while being fascinated with what should have been tossed in the garbage years ago but don't blame me because I better. I have a background in printing and I'll be damned if I apologize for it. Whenever you asked me anything I help you as best as I could and believe me I'm sorry I did. Read whatever you want into anything I've said - it's free country and you're allowed to be as wrong as you want to be.

I guess you didn't like my answers because they didn't support your erroneous theories so your taking your little ball and going home because the game isn't to your liking. It takes a real man to be able to listen and learn from someone else and I'm constantly reading what others in my field of practice do so I can learn from them as well as other collectors who are adding to my knowledge of this hobby and unlike you I AM GRATEFUL to all of them but I guess you don't need any help because you know it all don't you. Must be hard being so perfect.

Have a problem with Playboy? Playgirl more your style? Hey, that's fine, we'll have to agree to disagree on our "preferences."

Oh and "I WILL NOW RESPECTFULLY RETIRE FROM THIS ASSININE DISCUSSION," this is the last you'll hear from me on this thread and you can believe my word unlike yours, which is obviously worthless since that quote was by you a day ago but you have since continued this "discussion" quite a bit.

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Posted By: runscott

Most of what you wrote was just emotional diarrhea, which was predictable given that I expected to hit a nerve when I questioned your "expert-ness".

But these following two bits indicate to me that you are wrestling with an issue that no amount of Playboys is going to change (not that there's anything wrong with that).


"It takes a real man..."

"...we'll have to agree to disagree on our "preferences."

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Posted By: The guy with.....ah two handles!

and I will send you the interface with e-bay. if you want the objective history of events.

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Old 05-20-2003, 01:26 AM
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Posted By: BROOKS

GEE BRIAN I AM SURE THAT SOMEONE AS FLUSH AS YOU ARE,LET ME SEE, THAT WAS 3 JEWELRY STORES AND A FITNESS CENTER YOU OWN RIGHT, SHOULD BE ABLE TO AFFORD TO MAKE THE NATIONALS. I MEAN IF A GUY ON A MEAGER WELFARE CHECK CAN DO IT WHY NOT YOU RIGHT? ALSO LET ME REMEMBER WHAT YOU SAID, THAT YOU ARE SUPERIOR IN INTELLIGENCE, HAVE 19" BICEPS AND LOVE THE MARTIAL ARTS RIGHT? SHOULD NOT BE A PROBLEM MEETING AN OLD POT-BELLIED BLIND MAN RIGHT? ON SECOND THOUGHT YOU MAY WANT TO HAVE SCOTT HOLD YOUR HAND AS PREVARICATORS WORK BETTER IN PAIRS. BY THE WAY, HAVE I EVER TOLD YOU HOW ABSOLUTELY STUPID AND IMMATURE YOU ARE WHEN RILED?...........<LOL LOL>

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Yep, that rascal bid on lots using multiple ID's. He's actually done it on some of my lots. The funny thing is that he's actually bought and paid for these lots. I am trying to fathom as to what the problem is here, and as to why ebay ever gave this any credibility is beyond my comprehension. To attack someone for this is sheer lunacy and shows a lack of understanding of good business principles. Frankly, its a good practice for buyers in a competitive field to do to throw off the competition.

The fact is that MANY serious buyers have multiple ID's. I'll put a tracking bid on a lot under my regular ID, but I rarely buy under it. The access for others to see what I have paid for an item or what I am pursuing is not something that I wish to be known. If the item in question is an area that I am known for, why should I tip my hand? Why should I give them the opportunity to run the price up on me?

I have done business with Brian Daniels both buying and selling. All of our transactions have been professional, cards accurately graded, payments have been fast, and shipments have never been delayed for any reason. He is more that welcome to bid on any of my lots under as many ID's as he wishes to use.

I have enjoyed reading this thread. It has been quite enlightening as to the ethical standards of certain parties.

Hopefully the person who made the complaint to ebay has had a lesson in intelligent business practices and has enough character to apologize for this act of foolishness. Maybe Daniels might even accept. If it was me, I wouldn't, but then again I'm not the forgiving type, especially when I am on the receiving end of an unwarranted, vindictive attack.

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The dildo with sharks eyes( that which you look into and see nothing but the back of the head of ) does not even understand the difference between "The National" and "Nationals" plaural.That alone might give you some sense as to the mindless, senile comprehension of Brook,who sells trimmed left overs from dealers and personally collects nothing but bookmarks of collectors like myself.You would find chunks of jerks like he in your stool.

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Posted By: MW

I have to agree with Zardoz on this one. I really don't see why eBay would ban some of BcD's user names while allowing certain KNOWN dubious sellers to continue to peddle their magic elixirs and snake oil.

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