Probstein video about trimmed cards

[parkplace33]

Rick Probstein posted a video about trimmed cards on his instagram:

https://www.instagram.com/reel/CsRwBAtL8_o/

It’s only two minutes but here are the takeaways:

1. Rick doesn’t care if a graded card in his collection is trimmed (and not graded as such).
2. Rick would take consignments from alleged trimmers if the card was already graded.

Interesting times.

[BobbyStrawberry]

IMO it says more about Rick than our times

[Snowman]

Why would anyone expect a consignment company to grade the grading companies? His stance is the most obvious stance that any business would take. If PSA or SGC slabbed it, then he'll list it. Seems like a no brainer. There are millions of trimmed cards in this hobby. Good luck tracking them all down.

[Johnny630]

Market Moving Guys Don't Care once in a PSA holder with a number grade it's gravy train baby!!!

[bnorth]

Originally Posted by Snowman

Why would anyone expect a consignment company to grade the grading companies? His stance is the most obvious stance that any business would take. If PSA or SGC slabbed it, then he'll list it. Seems like a no brainer. There are millions of trimmed cards in this hobby. Good luck tracking them all down.

I couldn't agree more about there being millions of trimmed cards already graded with many more being graded daily. I also can't imagine a business turning down cash by not listing graded cards.

[Leon]

Unfortunate, but true. That is why I mostly collect cards, with big borders, that probably aren't trimmed...

Originally Posted by Snowman

Why would anyone expect a consignment company to grade the grading companies? His stance is the most obvious stance that any business would take. If PSA or SGC slabbed it, then he'll list it. Seems like a no brainer. There are millions of trimmed cards in this hobby. Good luck tracking them all down.

[Aquarian Sports Cards]

Is it as fun as his Mastro interview video?

[raulus]

I suspect it’s the brazenness as much as anything that is so appalling. It’s one thing to admit that it’s an issue that can’t really be solved with our current methods, and it’s another thing to suggest that you don’t give a hoot.

[refz]

It all boils down to the Almighty Dollar end of story. I’m so sick of seeing this guy in the headlines. If you think he’s shady stay away, if you like him go give him a hug.

[Republicaninmass]

Originally Posted by raulus

I suspect it’s the brazenness as much as anything that is so appalling. It’s one thing to admit that it’s an issue that can’t really be solved with our current methods, and it’s another thing to suggest that you don’t give a hoot.

Agreed, the hubris is at an all time high. Scary

[Fred]

Originally Posted by Snowman

Why would anyone expect a consignment company to grade the grading companies? His stance is the most obvious stance that any business would take. If PSA or SGC slabbed it, then he'll list it. Seems like a no brainer. There are millions of trimmed cards in this hobby. Good luck tracking them all down.

Yup

Originally Posted by Johnny630

Market Moving Guys Don't Care once in a PSA holder with a number grade it's gravy train baby!!!

Yup

Originally Posted by bnorth

I couldn't agree more about there being millions of trimmed cards already graded with many more being graded daily. I also can't imagine a business turning down cash by not listing graded cards.

Yup

I don't agree with his point of view but I can see where where he's coming from. My take is that at least you know where he stands and that you can surmise he won't provide a refund on a holdered/slabbed card (with a numerical grade) that a buyer suspects is trimmed or altered. However, I would guess he might consider a refund, or some other course of action, if the buyer is a whale of a customer that he depends on to fatten his wallet.

I see this as his way of putting it out there. It's kind of hard to blame him because he's a business man offering a service for which people will willingly accept mediocrity.

I've purchased from him before and will continue to do so if the card is something I want and through my observation doesn't appear to be altered (or would be willing to accept the card as such).

I don't think that a few collectors boycotting his auctions is going to make a difference. Sadly, this seems to be the collecting world we live in. This is one of those lines that is very blurred.

The only way a difference will be made is if the TPGs are somehow made accountable and we know that isn't going to happen.

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[Peter_Spaeth]

No different than most auction houses. The flip sanitizes all, and card doctors have triumphed. So it goes. The unholy alliance goes on.

[Aquarian Sports Cards]

Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth

No different than most auction houses. The flip sanitizes all, and card doctors have triumphed. So it goes. The unholy alliance goes on.

It's a tough spot. How much time can an auction company afford to spend to redo the job that the TPG was supposed to do with the added handicap of trying to do it through the slab?

That being said there's a difference between missing a problem and being complicit in one.

[Peter_Spaeth]

Originally Posted by Aquarian Sports Cards

It's a tough spot. How much time can an auction company afford to spend to redo the job that the TPG was supposed to do with the added handicap of trying to do it through the slab?

That being said there's a difference between missing a problem and being complicit in one.

I know you don't do it, but most of them knowingly take consignments from known card doctors. You don't need to examine the cards that carefully to know the score.

[Facilitypro]

He also made a video dressing down someone who asked that their wining bid be canceled, all while frequently canceling his own auctions that aren't bid up as much as he likes.

Mich@el M@rks

[perezfan]

What a waste of 2 minutes.... Collecting for the lowest common denominator. No conflict of interest there.

Why even have the designation of "A" if it doesn't matter whether a card is trimmed? This is the equivalent of Mastro posting a video stating it wouldn't bother him if he knew his item was shilled.

[jingram058]

I don't worry about that sort of thing, because all my cards are raw. I just collect cards.

[samosa4u]

Originally Posted by parkplace33

1. Rick doesn’t care if a graded card in his collection is trimmed (and not graded as such).

Oh man! If I was the owner of that high-grade 52T Mantle (he showed in the video) and I later found out that it was trimmed ... That would hurt!!! And yes, I would get rid of it too!