T206 HOF portrait's in Sterling Auctions last night

[TheBig6]

[fkm_bky]

The T206 HOF Portraits have always been my favorite sub-set and you guys are killing it with sharing your collections! Fantastic looking cards!

A few of my favorites.

Bill

[bbsports]

I'm sure all you collectors are very proud of your Hall of Famer t206 cards. It's true that Lee's auction did produce high prices on the SGC 45's that did get much higher prices. However if you really believe and I'm speaking from experience, that these cards are selling at PSA prices, your dreaming. The PSA registry is much higher than the SGC registry on t206 cards because they have been around a lot longer. The supply and demand leans much more in purchasing t206 cards that are PSA graded. Since these SGC portraits sold for such high prices, the PSA portraits are selling at higher prices. I'm sure you can also see it in other auction houses as well. As a dealer, I'm happy for the SGC collectors, but the PSA collectors should even be happier.

[Exhibitman]

Please post the actual sales data for Joss, Evers, Walsh, Jennings, Tinker and Lajoie portraits in 4-4.5-5 to support your assertion that "the PSA portraits are selling at higher prices" than the SGC cards that were just sold.

[TheBig6]

You have to agree Nap looks good in a SGC holder. I wish all my cards were in SGC slabs. SGC built their name grading T206 cards.I Don’t understand why a registry guy would care about mid grade Common back T206 cards.But I don’t follow the registry trends.

[Eric72]

Originally Posted by TheBig6

...I Don’t understand why a registry guy would care about mid grade Common back T206 cards...

For some people, collecting isn't about the cards; they've turned it into a competitive thing.

[3-2-count]

The monetary value between Psa and Sgc prewar cards (including T206’s) has narrowed considerably over the past few years and deservedly so.

Prewar collectors are now more so than ever valuing the card based on its condition and eye appeal no matter who’s slab it resides in (that being Psa or Sgc)

It’s about time!!

[t206kid]

The best portrait ever...

[3-2-count]

Hard to argue with that Jay.

Gorgeous run……

[trambo]

Originally Posted by t206kid

The best portrait ever...

I just threw up in my mouth a little (haha!!). Beauty is in the eye of the beholder. I'd take either Cobb portrait over that one. Just don't love the yellow of the port.

[IndyDave]

Mine don’t quite matchup in condition but here they are. My collection is pretty much Cleveland players

[Wanaselja]

Originally Posted by IndyDave

Mine don’t quite matchup in condition but here they are. My collection is pretty much Cleveland players

The grade is just a number. Those look terrific.

[t206fanatic]

Great port's everyone, wanted to share some of mine

[3-2-count]

Incredible cards Jeff. Thanks for sharing.

[fkm_bky]

Wow Jeff…mic drop. Just stunning cards. Thanks for sharing!

Bill

[MVSNYC]

Jeff, fantastic!

[Rhotchkiss]

Damn Jeff, you just stole the show. Great cards (and happy new year!)

[skelly423]

Only a 2 on the Plank???

Seriously fantastic cards, I have never seen a t206 so nice

[brianclat11]

Unbelievable Jeff!! I could only dream of having a group of cards like that.....wow.

[brianclat11]

Originally Posted by t206kid

The best portrait ever...

Thanks for sharing Jay. Very impressive.

[trambo]

A few more portraits from my main set. I don't think any of these scans do the cards justice but among my favorite portraits!

[skelly423]

I love the Donovan. He isn't a HOFer, but that color is so unique in the set, it just pops.

[joejo20]

Here are a few I like because they were found in an envelope postmarked 1911 with a bunch of other EPDG cards that have not see the light of day in 100 years.

[NYYFan63]

Here are my Cobb’s:








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[trambo]

Originally Posted by skelly423

I love the Donovan. He isn't a HOFer, but that color is so unique in the set, it just pops.

Agreed! In hand that color is just incredible!!

[3-2-count]

Originally Posted by 3-2-count

The monetary value between Psa and Sgc prewar cards (including T206’s) has narrowed considerably over the past few years and deservedly so.

Prewar collectors are now more so than ever valuing the card based on its condition and eye appeal no matter who’s slab it resides in (that being Psa or Sgc)

It’s about time!!

Bumping this thread due to reviewing the REA results from their auction which ended last night. Lots of great Psa and Sgc graded T206's. Sgc pre war graded hall of famers continue to hold their own -vs- Psa. Here are a few which stood out!

Sgc 6 T206 Chance yellow portrait - $2,760.00
Sgc 4 T206 Speaker - $2,520.00
Sgc 5 T206 Chance red portrait - $2,160.00
Sgc 4 T206 Waddell throwing - $1,740.00

[fkm_bky]

You're absolutely right Tony. It was a great auction and I was chasing several but they got too high for me. I ended up winning one (which I over-paid for, but who hasn't!). Very happy to add this one to my collection.

HOF Portraits are definitely not slowing down (SCG or PSA).

Love the front of this one...not so much the back

Bill

[53toppscollector]

as many of you know, I am a portrait-only collector for the T206 set, and this thread does a great job of illustrating why! Even the non-HOF portraits in the set look beautiful. The thing that attracts me to the portraits is the brilliance and variation of the background color. The Ty Cobb is the most famous example, with the orangeish background getting a lot of love. But you can see it in noticeable ways on a lot of the portraits, where the blue isnt as dark on some of the cards, for example. It is especially noticeable (and my favorite part of my collection) when viewing the fronts side by side in a binder.

[Leon]

Originally Posted by trambo

A few more portraits from my main set. I don't think any of these scans do the cards justice but among my favorite portraits!

First of all to the OPs point, personally, I think if the cards in SGC holders were in PSA holders they would have brought more...but who knows. I feel people in these grade ranges are buying the card and not the holder but, PSA has much better marketing and management, and the registry, so cards in their holders generally bring more. It's not really a debate from what I have seen.

As for this post, that Bressy reminds me of mine but with opposite big border. Love this miscut...

[griffon512]

Agree with you in general Leon that PSA gets a premium all else being equal in registry sets. That said, there have recently been a lot more examples like last night from REA where a SGC 4 Waddell throwing went for much more ($1,740) than a PSA 4 Waddell throwing ($1,050), and deservedly so.

https://bid.robertedwardauctions.com...e?itemid=96820
https://bid.robertedwardauctions.com...e?itemid=96816

Especially in popular sets, color/registration/centering increasingly means more than the grader and the premium for eye appeal keeps on growing.

[3-2-count]

Leon, great Bresnahan portrait. My point regarding value between Sgc and Psa prewar issues though (in this case T206's) is that the gap is much closer now than what it once was in years past.

The cards being discussed may have very well sold for more if they were in Psa slabs. I'm not disputing that. My point was/is that Sgc prewar cards more than hold their own today against Psa when they display nice for the grade.

Collectors such as you and I are proof of that as we pay up for the nice stuff no matter if its Sgc or Psa.

Now post war is an entirely different story!

[Jersey City Giants]

I am looking for nicely centered, good resolution and color PSA 4s of the following.

Matty Portrait
Matty White Cap
Tinker Portrait
Cobb Green Portrait

shoot me an email with pics and prices:

jason.seidl@cowen.com

[tedzan]

I don't do Auctions anymore. Except the Blue Chase (red HINDU) shown here, I've acquired these 12 gems (and many more) for my four T206 sets directly from purchases (cash
and/or trade). I've always found this to be the more reasonable way to acquire Sports cards.
REA and Lee Behrens' (Sterling) Auctions are the only two auctions I occasionally check-out.



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[Sterling Sports Auctions]

Since the big price increases in the last couple of years SGC cards have closed the gap on many of the big cards. I see this constantly when I am checking the track record of a certain graded.

I think there is a whole new group of buyers out there that are buying the card not the holder and also buying what is available. They are not aware of VCP and pay the price they are comfortable with.

Thanks for the support I get from you,

Lee Behrens