Help with this 52 Topps Mantle

[Blunder19]

Hi Everyone,

I am going tomorrow to look at buying my first 52 topps mantle.. I know little about the card.. in terms of spotting fakes... im hoping someone can help me with any known things to look for if buying a raw 52 tops mantle, i would greatly appreciate it...

See images below.. looks as if it would grade a 1 out of 10 to me... agree?




thanks for any advice..

[cardsagain74]

Use this

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NUwmxKaMXmQ

Also, when a '52 T Mantle is ungraded in the screwdown holder nowadays, the odds of it being real aren't too good

[robw1959]

Very informative video. On the back I spotted the stitching going right-to-left on the baseball instead of left-to-right as authentic ones should have and the "t" failing to line up with the two "s"es along the right side.

[Blunder19]

wow thanks for the video... according to this video the card i would be looking at tomorrow is a fake.. the stitching on the baseball on the back top left does not flow the correct way... appreciate the link.. you saved me here..

[Blunder19]

hoping others can chime in... in the title of the video it says "disregard comments on fake backs"... does that mean the back theory was proved wrong?

i am finding cards in PSA holders that sold on ebay with the stitching the same way as the card i am supposed to look at..

example of a PSA 5.. with stitching from right to left.... based on the below i would reverse my thinking and say the card is real... any input is appreciated..

[Cliff Bowman]

It doesn't prove that it is real but that is the correct stitching direction for the 1952 Topps Mantle with the black line under the Yankees logo.

[irv]

Mantle, Robinson and Thompson were double printed cards and the stitching is is counter clockwise on them.

Mantle is easier to tell as the front has more differences than the other 2 cards as has been pointed out.
Use these pics. It should help you with your decision.
There is also this link: https://allvintagecards.com/how-to-s...-topps-mantle/

Good luck.

[egbeachley]

Are fakes so good now that an experienced collector can’t tell from good scans?

The wear looks natural to me. I think it’s real.

[chriskim]

With all these hesitation in mind, I wouldn't buy an ungraded Mantle. Period! Unless it is a few thousand dollar less but (again) that would be too good to be true. A graded 1 Mantle RC is less than $10k anyways.

[tedzan]

Hi Jamie

Here are the two Mantle cards from my master 1952 TOPPS set. When you compare the front's, you will notice minor differences.
The most notable difference is the glossy glare on Mickey's right arm (Type 2) vs. the clear skin tone (Type 1).


Type 1 .................................................. .........……........... Type 2




And, as already stated the stitches on the BB on the back are reversed between Type 1 vs. Type 2 cards.

Good luck.


TED Z

T206 Reference
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[todeen]

Originally Posted by egbeachley

Are fakes so good now that an experienced collector can’t tell from good scans?



The wear looks natural to me. I think it’s real.

I thought the same thing about usual wear.

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[hcv123]

Just looked at a fake 53 and 52 Bowman the other day. Essential tools:

1) A known real 1952 Topps card (any player) - to compare feel, size and appearance
2) A ruler to make sure it measures correct 2 5/8 x 3 3/4
3) a 10 power loupe - under magnification a fake will appear to have a "dot pattern" over areas that should be solid color
4) a blacklight to check for recoloring and alteration
5) a printout of the signs to look for on a fake - readily available with a google search for both type 1 and type 2 cards.
6) Common sense - applied as needed

Good luck - let us know how it works out.

Ps Was this a "Craigs list find"? If so be EXTRA careful

[samosa4u]

Originally Posted by Blunder19

I am going tomorrow to look at buying my first 52 topps mantle.. I know little about the card.. in terms of spotting fakes... im hoping someone can help me with any known things to look for if buying a raw 52 tops mantle, i would greatly appreciate it...

Let's say you have never benched in your life, and I tell you to lift 300 pounds, would you do it? That's what I see you doing here. Nobody can help you buy a raw card online. Counterfeiters are "upgrading" their work all the time. If you want a 1952 Topps Mantle, then just purchase a graded example.