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Just open a new new checking/ savings account at any bank. Like eBay IDs you an have as many as you want.
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Ebay is losing a lot of card sellers because of things like this. Credit card claims, sending back empty top loaders and getting refunds, etc. The worst is the INAD on prospects. Someone buys a rookie card of player A while they are in spring training. 5 months later the player blows out a knee, or just sucks, and his card values plummet. They return the card that is now worth a quarter what it was worth. Could you imagine if you were in the stock market and could change your mind after 5 months on a stock you bought? These are liquid items, and it needs to stop.
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So, if I have a second account that doesn't have any money it in, they still wouldn't be able to come at me and demand I refund somebody after six months? |
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If it is a fraudulent return/scam you can clear it up while keeping your $ during the process. Now if someone wants to return a item 1 day short of 6 months there is very little you can do but return the $ after they return the item. There is really no way to avoid the scammers. The good part is even with all the horror stories scammers are fairly rare. Back when I was a bigger seller on eBay I just figured 1 out of 100 sales was going to be a problem. Then about 1 out of 10 of them was going to be a real problem. Just the risk you have to take to sell on eBay. |
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IF you ever had the main account tied to PayPal, they will go after the funds even if it isn't currently attached to your account. It would be better to open a new account that paypal doesn't know about and park most of your money there.
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I would think that PayPal taking funds from your bank/credit account would also give you the right to refute that "charge" through YOUR bank/credit provider, as the fraudster did. As in, do the same thing back to them.
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I don't think that's legal. If I rescind my permission to access my account they can't just go ahead and access it.
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I recently opened a second account at my bank as a PayPal landing account. This new account is the only one tied to PayPal and I move the money out of it to another account at the same bank (which is an instant transfer).
My question: if PayPal tried to draw out of the empty account, would my bank use my other accounts to cover it like they do when they pull money from your savings account to cover a check larger than their checking balance? In other words, does my PayPal landing account need to be a different account number at my primary bank or an account at a bank where I have no other accounts? (The latter would be annoying bc transfers can take a few days and would make it harder to buy things on bst using my balance.)
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Well, except that you can fight a collection agency and not pay unless you lose, and if you have proof of a fraudulent charge-back a court might let you go. If PayPal simply loots your account then you have to sue to chase it down rather than vice versa. i'd rather defend with cash in hand than have to go chase cash.
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After PayPal put $2,000 on hold and then gave it all back to a 0 feedback buyer who claimed to receive a “empty box” I have never kept anything over a $1 in my account. Even if I sell a $10 card it’s getting transferred to my bank ASAP lol
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When selling on ebay, is there a way to require a minimum positive feedback score, say 30, or the bid won't be accepted?
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Yep -- kinda. Visit:
https://www.ebay.com/help/selling/li...ements?id=4152 ...and then click the link in #1 Buyer Requirements. There are several options, though not the exact one you are after.
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Yes, but Ebay won't let you restrict prospective buyers to 30 feedback (or 20....10.....5). You literally can't protect yourself as the seller and an unscrupulous buyer can play this "item not as described" or "item not received" scam..... It's so frustrating..
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So - finally got resolution on this case.
The chargeback case was "decided in my favor", thankfully. Summary of what happened: - Sold a card through eBay on January 2nd. - Shipped it signature required etc. based on the Seller's Protection guidelines at Paypal, on January 3rd. - Notice was left on January 5th, buyer signed for it on January 9th. - Buyer left me positive feedback on eBay shortly after that. - Not quite two months later, Paypal freezes the funds in my account saying the buyer (or maybe financial institution, never was clear on who initiated this) had filed a claim for a "refund not received". - Sent Paypal all my info, including eBay and other information to demonstrate that no refund had ever been requested. - Had three different phone calls with Paypal, and basically was told there was nothing they could do, other than dispute the chargeback with the financial institution. - They also told me because it was a "refund not received" request, it wasn't covered under Seller Protection, even though they acknowledged verbally I had never been asked to give a refund. More on that later. - The process can take up to 75 days to decide. I posted this on March 1, and got the money back on May 14. Looks like every single one of those days was used in this case. This was one of the most confusing and frustrating things I've encountered in what it literally almost 20 years of being on eBay. It sure feels like this is a big loophole that buyers/financial institutions can try to exploit. I was literally told during this process that there was nothing else I could have done to put myself in any better position, yet the money still got hung up for 2.5 months, and that clock only started nearly 2 months after I originally sold the card. So from sale date to resolution, it was 4.5 months. How this could have ever been initiated without an actual request for refund is bizarre - I still don't understand what that was an absolute requirement to even begin the process. Why it wasn't covered under Seller Protection is equally bizarre, considering I had followed the requirements (despite what seemed to be at least a temporary glitch in the Paypal site, but not the USPS site), and provided that information as quickly as I could. Why it took all 75 days to finally be resolved is certainly frustrating. Anyway, good news is it ended as it should have. |
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Can you tell us the E-Bay ID ( and city ) of the scam artist who tried to do this . So we don't also go through the same deal. Thanks.
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Glad it had a favorable resolution, even though the timeframe and hoops are ridiculous.
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I believe Paypal just changed their T&C's to cover this type of scenario under their seller protection
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Congrats on the favorable outcome. Hopefully AJ is right about this scenario now being covered. I think I will stick to either selling to people I know in the hobby or consigning to avoid situations like this though. Or at least make sure never to keep funds in my PayPal account.
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