Kreindler raffle info, pg 8, post #79, this thread

[Vintage Yankee]

I'm in...

[I Only Smoke 4 the Cards]

I am interested but have a question. Who would do the ticket drawing?

[CW]

I would buy a ticket.

It would be cool to have a live webcast if possible of the actual drawing for the winner. Or, at the very least, it should be filmed and put up on youtube? Just an idea....

[thecatspajamas]

Originally Posted by I Only Smoke 4 the Cards

I am interested but have a question. Who would do the ticket drawing?

No drawing. Everyone gets their numbers assigned ahead of time, all posted on the board for all to see so that there is no cry of foul. The winning number is determined by taking the last 3 digits of the attendance figure for a pre-selected game as reported by a specific source.

So essentially an independent, verifiable random number (with a baseball theme for fun).

That way everything is laid out in advance, no board members have any control over the selection of the winning number, and there should be no cries of "foul" or any question of the results being manipulated.

[whitehse]

Originally Posted by GoCubsGo32

^^ This. As Lance and others mention..start small for the first ( hopefully many more) raffle and build on that.

* Limited to 200 - This would not be hard to fill at all.
* Keep it 16x20 - Keep it simple for the first time around.
* Have limit on ticket purchase - First 3 days, you can only buy max of 2 tickets. This way it gives everyone a fair chance to purchase at least one ticket.Some don't check the board 24/7.THEN on 4th day, open it up to as many as you want, on first come first serve basis.

I too like this idea and would be in for at least one shot!

[Jacklitsch]

I'm in for 1. 2 once everyone has a chance for 1

[cwazzy]

I would be in for one now, possibly one more later.

[CW]

Originally Posted by thecatspajamas

No drawing. Everyone gets their numbers assigned ahead of time, all posted on the board for all to see so that there is no cry of foul. The winning number is determined by taking the last 3 digits of the attendance figure for a pre-selected game as reported by a specific source.

So essentially an independent, verifiable random number (with a baseball theme for fun).

That way everything is laid out in advance, no board members have any control over the selection of the winning number, and there should be no cries of "foul" or any question of the results being manipulated.

Excellent solution, Lance!

[effe]

I'm in

[thecatspajamas]

Originally Posted by CW

Excellent solution, Lance!

To be fair, the method of choosing the winning number was all Bill's idea. I just thought I'd better clarify asap as it seemed some were getting the wrong idea about there being a televised drawing

[billyb]

Thanks Lance,
As everyone can see, the response has been great. As intended, this thread was to propose a raffle and find out what kind of interest there would be and to hash out any details to this raffle.
The decision to move forward is yes and I hope to have tentative details, dates and the rest of the rules posted sometime soon.
Graig is excited to say the least, as he has been monitoring the responses and in his old humble way exclaimed, "I didn't expect this kind of a response."
So now I will get back to finishing up the rules so I can post them ASAP.

[YankeeFan]

Originally Posted by GoCubsGo32

^^ This. As Lance and others mention..start small for the first ( hopefully many more) raffle and build on that.

* Limited to 200 - This would not be hard to fill at all.
* Keep it 16x20 - Keep it simple for the first time around.
* Have limit on ticket purchase - First 3 days, you can only buy max of 2 tickets. This way it gives everyone a fair chance to purchase at least one ticket.Some don't check the board 24/7.THEN on 4th day, open it up to as many as you want, on first come first serve basis.

FWIW, I also like these rules.

[7nohitter]

I would buy one

[irishdenny]

If Permitted, I would be iN for 5...

[ibuysportsephemera]

IN for at least 2 or more. Thanks to all for getting this going.

Jeff

[perezfan]

Originally Posted by thecatspajamas

No drawing. Everyone gets their numbers assigned ahead of time, all posted on the board for all to see so that there is no cry of foul. The winning number is determined by taking the last 3 digits of the attendance figure for a pre-selected game as reported by a specific source.

So essentially an independent, verifiable random number (with a baseball theme for fun).

That way everything is laid out in advance, no board members have any control over the selection of the winning number, and there should be no cries of "foul" or any question of the results being manipulated.

I guess I'm brain-dead today, or did not stay at a Holiday Inn Express last night (or both...)

If the contest is limited to 200 entries, what if the attendance for the pre-selected game is is 28,917?

So the winning number is then 917... but the entries go from only 1 - 200. How will this determine a winner?

I'm sure there's an obvious answer... just not getting it

[Kawika]

In like a dirty shirt.

[T20Brew]

I would definitely be in for 1.

[bn2cardz]

Originally Posted by perezfan

I guess I'm brain-dead today, or did not stay at a Holiday Inn Express last night (or both...)

If the contest is limited to 200 entries, what if the attendance for the pre-selected game is is 28,917?

So the winning number is then 917... but the entries go from only 1 - 200. How will this determine a winner?

I'm sure there's an obvious answer... just not getting it

The full rules were laid out in the OP:

Originally Posted by billyb

3. Once total entries obtained, that number divided into 1000 to obtain a whole number. (example; 230 total into 1000 is 4.3), 4 is the whole number, meaning everyone will get 3 additional chances to win. The list will then be expanded by reapplying the numbers list starting with 231 (3 additional times), keeping list in same sequence.
4. Using the 230 as an example, Member who received #1, would also get 231, 461, and 691.
5. Using 230 as the example, the last number would be 920, Any number after 920 is not to be used.
6. Drawing: Once final list posted with all additional extra chances, posted for 3-5 days so everyone gets a chance to see the numbers, a ballbame, preselected will be named and the last three numbers of the attendance figure will be you winner. If those numbers fall is one of the unused numbers, the last number dropped from the attendance and the new three numbers will the winner.

[thecatspajamas]

Originally Posted by perezfan

I guess I'm brain-dead today, or did not stay at a Holiday Inn Express last night (or both...)

If the contest is limited to 200 entries, what if the attendance for the pre-selected game is is 28,917?

So the winning number is then 917... but the entries go from only 1 - 200. How will this determine a winner?

I'm sure there's an obvious answer... just not getting it

In that case, it would be whoever got #117, because they would also have #317, 517, 717 and 917. Every $20 entry gets you 5 numbers. You get your base number ranging from 1 through 200, and then add 200 each time to get your 4 other numbers.

200 was selected as the cap for entries because it's a nice round number and divides into 1000 easily, simplifying the math. And because Graig said the he could do a nice painting of that size for that price

[billyb]

Perez fan,
Each entry will get 5 chances. Once the list is established from 1-200, the named list is re-entered, in same order, 4 additional times. 5 x 200 = 1000.

[perezfan]

Got it... I'm in too (if room allows).

Thanks!

[autograf]

In for at least one, more if allowed..................

[howard38]

Great idea, count me in!

[parker1b2]

I'm in

[Wynn0013]

Wow, excellent! I would be interested.

[nebboy]

Great idea - love Greg's work
I'll be happy to buy in

[old13man]

Could be a stupid question but if we said we are in does that guarantee us an opportunity to buy in or will it be a mad scramble once its opened up? It seems like 200 will not be hard to fill at all.


CJ

[billyb]

Next time

[baseball tourist]

Originally Posted by billyb

Okay all, here is the date and time this raffle as it is going to kick off, on Sunday May 4th, 2014 at 8PM (EST) Now I want to see some potential dreams, so post them, one of them may be the winner.


OFFICIAL RULES TO WIN 16 X 20 INCH GRAIG KREINDLER PAINTING.


1. Sale of entries will begin on Sunday, May 4th, 2014 @ 8PM (EST)
2. Cost is $20 per entry, limit capped at 5, total, for first three days. (72 hours). After 72 hours, capped lifted.
3. Entries obtained on raffle thread at which time you will give us the number of entries you wish to purchase.
4. At 200 entries, sales will stop, capped at 200. But keep posting as entries may come available or second event may occur, depending on response. (see more below)
5. Payment will be disclosed at later date.
6. Your entry numbers will be given out in order of requests, via the raffle thread. Example: First member, if request is for three entries, will get numbers 1,2,3, Second member if request is for 2, will get #4 and 5, and third member will start at 6 and so on, until 200 entries is achieved.
7. Each entry will get 5 chances, #1 will also get, 201, 401, 601, 801, and #2 will get 202, 402, 602, 802.
8, Once list is completed, entry fees will be due in 7 days. Any entry fee not paid after 7 days will be forfeited and resold.
9. Once all payments are received, an upcoming baseball game will be selected, along with a secondary game in case of a rainout.
10. The winning number will be the last three digits of the attendance of the selected game, as given on the New York Times web site, box score. The number on the New York Times website is the one we will use, even if a different attendance number may be given on the radio, television or elsewhere.

NOTE: After the first 200 entries are reserved, we will continue taking entry requests in case some are unpaid/forfeited. If response is so overwhelming that 400 requests are reached, Graig has agreed to do a second painting so as two winners may be achieved. In that event, numbers will be assigned to the second group of 200 entrants as above and separate event selected for determining the winning number of the second event.

STIPULATIONS: Graig Kreindler does reserves the right of final word, as to content of the subject matter, of the paintings requested.


GOOD LUCK TO ALL

Sounds great! Thanks for arranging and thanks to Graig for offering up this opportunity.

[billyb]

To all,
I want to post here that whoever is the lucky winner(s), remember, there still is a waiting list before Graig starts any paintings. No exceptions here. And the size of 16 x 20, could take up to 6 months to complete. But we all know, they are well worth it.

Bill Boyd

[baseball tourist]

If we are dreaming...I really like this image.

[billyb]

Chris,
Aaron is always cool, good choice, I am excited that someone's dream is going to come true, I can't wait.

[JoeyF1981]

Originally Posted by baseball tourist

If we are dreaming...I really like this image.

Id go with a Aaron painting also! Good choice

[effe]

Originally Posted by JoeyF1981

Id go with a Aaron painting also! Good choice

+2!

Sale of entries will begin on Sunday, May 4th, 2014 @ 8PM (EST)

This will be board time correct? So posts at 7:59 will be disallowed?

[billyb]

effe,
I was not aware of no posts after 7:59, exuse me, time to scramble and check this out, thanks for the insight.
Effe,
I misunderstood you, I am going to try and enter the thread at exactly 8:00, whatever the time is, when you see the sight pop in, I will be taking entry requests.
I read your first post too fast and thought there was no posts allowed after 7:59pm on Sun, my heart was in my throat for a second. I will have this current thread still going and hope to answer questions here. I don't want to start the other too soon as I will be getting questions on that sight that might interfere with the requesting procedures.

[Nashvol]

Great idea!

[Republicaninmass]

Originally Posted by effe

+2!


This will be board time correct? So posts at 7:59 will be disallowed?

I think I must have missed something where the thread went from "i'm in" a max of 200 entries to this May 4th thing. Will there be a new thread?


ok I see it now, just an inquiry how many would be in

[Michael B]

I am interested, but does it have to be baseball? Will he consider other sports ie. track and field? I appreciate his work, but I would have no interest in a baseball theme painting.

[JoeyF1981]

Originally Posted by Michael B

I am interested, but does it have to be baseball? Will he consider other sports ie. track and field? I appreciate his work, but I would have no interest in a baseball theme painting.

WHAT!!! NO BASEBALL!!! You just crossed the line!

[billyb]

Michael B,
I have seen other sports paintings he has done, I am sure he would be interested if it is a quality piece, some historical connection with the event, or a famous track and field athlete in motion.

[GKreindler]

Hey all,

Thank you so much for showing so much enthusiasm for this whole thing. And a BIG 'thank you' has to go to Bill and Lance for putting it all together. The whole experience has been really exciting to watch unfold thus far, and all of your responses leave me pretty darn humbled (as they always seem to do).

In the end, I hope it's a fun experience and that someone gets something that they really love and cherish to show for it. I'd definitely be up for doing this sort of thing again if there's still interest for it.

The bottom line is, you guys have always been soooooo incredibly good to me, and I'm thrilled that I can say that some of you have become real-life, true friends over the years. It sounds corny for sure, but this sort of loving community is super important to me.

And for the record Michael, I'm happy to do a track & field piece, or any other sport - the winning painting doesn't have to be baseball!

Graig

[JoeyF1981]

Graig- Even owning one of your studies is a honor and something I will never part with. Your paintings are hands down the best I've seen and I'm sure many others can say the same.....so with that said since I'm winning the raffle can you go ahead and get started on my hank Aaron painting...lol

[horzverti]

If I win, I'd like this one in Kreindlercolor. You're familiar with this one, right Graig?

[horzverti]

Here is one that you started a few years ago...you're welcome.

[GKreindler]

Joey, you got it. Just gotta find the right image first!

Curt, that's the one!! It was always been my favorite from my father's collection. I think my rendition exhibits some excellent crayon work.

[effe]

Originally Posted by billyb

effe,
I misunderstood you, I am going to try and enter the thread at exactly 8:00.

So the signup thread won't exist prior to 8. That answers my question, thanks!

[Michael B]

Originally Posted by JoeyF1981

WHAT!!! NO BASEBALL!!! You just crossed the line!

The foul line???? If you saw my walls you would understand.

[packs]

Wow, that a great idea and I hope to be in the running.

Here's me dreaming big:

[billyb]

Packs,
I have to say, one great photo there, good luck.