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Old 11-29-2012, 09:30 AM
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Default Net 54 Baseball HOF

I spoke with Leon about this and he's okay with it, so I'm going to start brainstorming a way for us (Net 54) to create our own baseball HOF (humans, not cards). I think such a thing would actually hold some weight, as this is a well-respected board.

It's in the initial stages, so any ideas are welcome. I certainly won't make up the rules for 'induction' myself (I might not even vote), but it would be good to have a core group to process the brainstorming and come up with rules.

Some ideas to debate, keeping in mind that this could get complicated:
  • pre-war only? start with players only?
  • starting ballot contains only players that are already in?
  • ...or add others to initial ballot (or supplemental ballot), list to be determined (e.g: Jackson, [Rose], Tenney, Lowe...)
  • annual? every 6 months?

I've been messing around with this idea literally for decades - the wonders of the computer and the internet should make it a bit easier these days.
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Old 11-29-2012, 09:41 AM
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I would be interested in something like that, Scott.
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Old 11-29-2012, 09:42 AM
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I think its an amazing idea!

- starting with current players already in
- you can add a VOTE option to the thread where every member here can vote (only once) and make up a % they must get from this board, lets say 75%
-i would assume starting with current members you should go through them quickly as most will be voted in again with some exceptions.
- I would start with players already in and start from the date they were added, here is a site that list them and the years - http://mlb.mlb.com/mlb/history/mlb_h...halloffame.jsp
- i would do a 3 month vote till we begin to catch up with the actual current HOF or we never will.
- adding OLD players (who deserve a thought) who didnt make it - in each vote from that era would be a cool idea
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Old 11-29-2012, 09:50 AM
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Default I love this idea!!!!!

There are guys that I've wanted to vote out of the Hall of Fame for years! I like the ideas so far. How often would we vote? What about monthly ballots? Or voting every other month so that we have one month of voting and one month to discuss the results. 100% on board!
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Old 11-29-2012, 09:53 AM
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Whatever we all decide on, I am in. Sounds like a fun idea.
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Sounds like a fun idea. I would love the opportunity to vote on a HOF as it could be a real elite group without the marginal HOFs that have been inducted in Cooperstown because they had friends on the veterans committee.
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Would we include Joe Jackson or Pete Rose?
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Would we include Joe Jackson or Pete Rose?
i would vote for both
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If you truly want to make the voting group friendly, have a vote on every aspect you can think of, first.

Banned players?

Minimum playing time to be on ballot?

% of votes needed?

players only?


etc, etc
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You bet.
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I'm in for the voting process. I know there are a few HoFers that I wouldn't necessarily be voting for, that's for sure.
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I would include both Rose and Jackson , and exclude any players who have been found to have taken any drugs that would have aided in their attaining stats
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I would include both Rose and Jackson , and exclude any players who have been found to have taken any drugs that would have aided in their attaining stats
Don't know if it will include post-wwii (probably not since this is a pre-war forum), but there definitely would not be any players 'banned' from voting.
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I think the best thing to do would be to start with pre-majors and then work your way up by decade. So the first ballot would be the Wright bros, Creighton, Barnes etc. I would do players only first because things like executives, managers, umpires can all be done in large groups.

For the players I would have a little bio on each, even if it is a link and their stats. Then I would open it up for discussion for a couple days, then have the vote. I also think I would go with a less strict standard than the HOF. If you have a group of educated people, who discussed certain players merits, then as long as more than half of the voters say yes, then yes it is. If it's 50% on the dot, then tough luck Tommy McCarthy.

I really never understood the thinking behind 75% of the voters making them a Hall of Famer. If the group that is voting is supposed to be smart enough to cast the votes(we know they aren't all, so play along) then if a majority say they are a HOF'er, they should be in the Hall. What other voting system is there where a majority doesn't win?

Good luck with it, Scott. I'll help out with the bios until the baseball season starts, if you need it.
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So the first ballot would be the Wright bros,
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I'm not interested in an aviation HOF, but we can consider doing that later.
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I'm not interested in an aviation HOF, but we can consider doing that later.
Alright, either Scott isn't taking this serious or he doesn't know who Harry and George Wright are! I say we vote him out as our HOF president right now before he lets Phil Rizzuto in and leaves Buck O'Neil out! Boo this man!
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