The Oaks Show and SGC Grading

[danmckee]

Hello everyone, I don't post much any more due to a few mental midgets that thought I was ousting auctions which was a joke. Jerks you know who you are.

Anywho, I just setup at the Oaks show in Philly and did very well. I did well thankfully to about 5 regular customers that came there to see me and that was it.

The show was horribly attended, period. That show is deader than Hunt's if that is possible, back to Chantilly for this vintage dealer.

I had an unbelievable great time with Wonka, Jim Rivera, Leon, and another local friend of mine. Well worth the trip.

SGA-- WHAT A F______G JOKE! I made a large submission about 8 months ago that took about 6 months to get back. I don't care about the time but GOD DAMN IT!!! I had to bust 50% of the cards out of the holders! They were embarrassingly under graded!!! PERIOD! I have some absolute KILLER Old Judges that will soon be on ebay that were under graded by people who have no clue about the issue. Very sad.

They owed me a $300 credit from a mishap and you know what, they were EXCELLENT in making that right!!! So I thought I would bend a little and throw them some of it back.

I submitted 8 cards and called it even and they were very happy with that.

Out of the 8 cards I received (6) SIX AUTHENTICS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Are u fkg kidding me?????????????????????????????????????????????

My 1934 Goudey Gehrig that dad and I collected in the late 1970s with rounded corners and a crease, I was expecting a 2, praying for a 3.

I get an A????????????????????????

Are you FKG kidding me???????????????????????????????????????????

I am so done with SGC that I thought I would post this.

I want to thank Dave for being good with the credit and customer service

But I am absolutely sick about my grades.

A T205 that was from a family where the buyer of the cigarettes took the cards out of the packs and put them in a cigar box. I get a 7.5 from PSA on a Cy Young from there and SGC gives me a 4 on the Mattern!!!!!! They circle a spot on the edge that has a slight missing of the gold but it is not scraped but just wasn't printed. No creases, sharp corners and a gem!!!


This grading stuff is a complete JOKE!!!!


I hope SGC calls me again one day asking for a large submission. I am going to tell them that I can't affor the cut marks on my hands popping pathetically under graded cards out of their holders.


This hobby has changed, changed for the worse by far.

You people into the grading BS, God bless you!

I feel very sorry for you.

Sincerely,

Dan Mckee

[hangman62]

Dan,
great post.... Dont let ,mental midgits keep you from posting... very turthful and entertaining !
RalG

[Rich Klein]

to give PSA another chance

[danmckee]

Thanks Rich! PSA barred me after I sued them for losing my Magies error and won!!!

Grading companies are wonderful!

[barrysloate]

Yikes- you have the same thread going twice. I posted a not so funny joke on the other one>

[ruth-gehrig]

What do you mean PSA lost your Magie?? How long was that legal battle?? Did you get what it was insured for?? What a disaster? Do you believe something crooked happened with the situation??

[kcohen]

Maybe you just got a bad grader. Do you know who the grader was? Was his name Vanilla Geek?

[timber63401]

This isnt directed at you as much as grading in general but I love how we all run to pay another human being to grade our cards then are mad when it doesnt get what we think it should.

[ruth-gehrig]

Yeah and this is a totally serious question....What does it take to be a card grader at PSA, SGC? What kind of qualifications or experience does a card grader require? Training?? Serious question

[danmckee]

First off, I don't "run" to anyone to get my cards graded. 99.9% of my keeper collection, that will trash yours I am sure, is all RAW!.

I rarely grade but will grade so I can sell to idiots that pay more for cards graded by idiots that have no clue.

I have been doing this 40+ years, I "run" to no one for anything!

And I have forgotten more than any of the idiot grading companies will ever know.

I will try to scan a few for you guys, I have to unpack from the show

Dan

PS I know that wasn't directed at me but I wanted to use it as a stress release! thanks

[snider4prez]

Damm Dan!!! You are pretty pissed here. I am sure rightfully so but really whats the big deal just ask for your money back, show them that you took the cards out of there holders and you are not happy. Not to sound so point blank by any means but F them and get your money back. You know enough good collectors that trust your grading skills to sell to. Send me a list of what you got and I will see if I can help. Say hi to your Dad for me, I hope you are doing well other than this silly card stuff?

Trevor Hocking

[danmckee]

Ask for my money back? I paid them $1800+ and had to pop 50% of the cards. I can't ask them for the money back, I paid for a service and they provided it. It was just a PISS POOR service! The OJ's are gem! maybe a touch of silver fish paper eating on back, a 1.5???? WHAT A JOKE! Backs shouldn't even matter on old judges, image quality should be important. I have 5's that you can't see the image hardly. This grading is a complete joke and a cancer to the true hobby!

I sent in 300+ cards and busted half of them out, EMBARRASSING!

[timber63401]

Originally Posted by danmckee

First off, I don't "run" to anyone to get my cards graded. 99.9% of my keeper collection, that will trash yours I am sure, is all RAW!.
I rarely grade but will grade so I can sell to idiots that pay more for cards graded by idiots that have no clue.

I have been doing this 40+ years, I "run" to no one for anything!

And I have forgotten more than any of the idiot grading companies will ever know.

I will try to scan a few for you guys, I have to unpack from the show

Dan

PS I know that wasn't directed at me but I wanted to use it as a stress release! thanks

I stopped reading there. Congrats...for being a douche

[tiger8mush]

Originally Posted by danmckee

First off, I don't "run" to anyone to get my cards graded. 99.9% of my keeper collection, that will trash yours I am sure, is all RAW!.

I rarely grade but will grade so I can sell to idiots that pay more for cards graded by idiots that have no clue.

I have been doing this 40+ years, I "run" to no one for anything!

And I have forgotten more than any of the idiot grading companies will ever know.

I will try to scan a few for you guys, I have to unpack from the show

Dan

PS I know that wasn't directed at me but I wanted to use it as a stress release! thanks

So just to recap your stress release:

You are upset because you, who runs to noone for 40+ years, ran to SGC to get your RAW cards graded. But the idiot graders (that have no clue how to grade) graded them objectively - which you forgot more than they know that due to paperloss they grade low - instead of grading them subjectively which could've made them 10s. And now the idiots who buy graded cards won't give you the profit you deserve.

and timber is a douche cuz your 99.9% raw keeper collection will trash his.

okay, got it!

[sportscardpete]

Ahh, too bad I missed the show. I was planning on going during the weekend, but didn't feel like dealing with the traffic from NY-PA.

Glad you guys had fun!

[kcohen]

Originally Posted by tiger8mush

So just to recap your stress release:

and timber is a douche cuz your 99.9% raw keeper collection will trash his.

okay, got it!

Rob - Not to speak for Dan, but in all fairness that's not what he was saying IMO. After all, Mr. Timber was the first to hurl the "d" word. Just sayin'.

[Orioles1954]

Originally Posted by ruth-gehrig

Yeah and this is a totally serious question....What does it take to be a card grader at PSA, SGC? What kind of qualifications or experience does a card grader require? Training?? Serious question

You haven't heard? According to one poster in an older thread, there are some people who are put specifically on this earth to grade baseball cards.

[calvindog]

Originally Posted by Orioles1954

You haven't heard? According to one poster in an older thread, there are some people who are put specifically on this earth to grade baseball cards.

Oh FML that was funny.

[bobbyw8469]

You haven't heard? According to one poster in an older thread, there are some people who are put specifically on this earth to grade baseball cards.

The best grader on earth is the sole employee at GAI. I rest my case....