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Kevin Saucier - Adding Value
Posted By: Dan Bretta
Jim, I wasn't really quoting you, but this is the impression I have gotten from statements you have made. |
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Kevin Saucier - Adding Value
Posted By: JimCrandell
Dan, |
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Kevin Saucier - Adding Value
Posted By: Sean C
you really must have a selective memory. If you search these boards, you will see that I was one of the early volunteers help out on your "clean up the hobby" crusade, but backed out after you posted a few of your personal social views. |
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Kevin Saucier - Adding Value
Posted By: JimCrandell
For the sixth time.....boy are you thick. |
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Kevin Saucier - Adding Value
Posted By: Brian
I am glad you are against personal attacks Jim. |
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Kevin Saucier - Adding Value
Posted By: Dan Bretta
Jim, will you be sending any of the cards you currently own to Kevin or will it only be new cards you are looking at buying? If a card comes back as "altered" what will you do with that card? |
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Kevin Saucier - Adding Value
Posted By: JimCrandell
Dan, |
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Kevin Saucier - Adding Value
Posted By: Bob Pomilla
Dan's question refered to cards that Kevin would deem "altered", not ones that he was "not comfortable with". |
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Posted By: pas
Expecting Kevin to "out" cards is misguided in my opinion. If anyone really wants to bring about change, try pressuring PSA to make transparent who submitted a card. It would not work prospectively, as people would just change their submitting habits, but wouldn't it be interesting to know for the millions of cards already graded? |
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Posted By: MikeU
"Stay tuned next week for Kevin's website launch. Will have endorsements from Rob Lifson, Mike Baker, Rich Mueller among others." |
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Kevin Saucier - Adding Value
Posted By: JimCrandell
Bob, |
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Kevin Saucier - Adding Value
Posted By: Steve
FWIW the coin industry is doing something similar. For a fee a person can send in a coin (already graded) and the syndicate (that is what they are calling it) of experienced dealers will attach a stamp of approval on the coin. It is more for hi end coins for the grade then alterations though. I for one would have no use for such a service yet at the same time understand how a collector like Jim may want to use one. Kevin is a friend of mine and I would trust his judgement if I needed such a service though. |
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Kevin Saucier - Adding Value
Posted By: JimCrandell
Mike, |
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Kevin Saucier - Adding Value
Posted By: Wesley
Does Rob even know Kevin? I doubt Rob is going to reject consignments based on Kevin's opinion. That would be suicide for REA. |
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Kevin Saucier - Adding Value
Posted By: Larry
IF PSA & SGC BOTH SAY a card is ungradeable, I have more faith in BOTH than either one alone, even if Kevin gives his opinion, no offense to Kevin. Jim Crandall wants to protect himself by not putting any more money into expensive cards without some help, no problem, that makes sense, Kevin obviously has doctoring skills to share. |
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Kevin Saucier - Adding Value
Posted By: JimCrandell
Larry, |
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Kevin Saucier - Adding Value
Posted By: Tom Nieves
Jim, |
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Kevin Saucier - Adding Value
Posted By: pas
Whether or not Jim sends his cards to Kevin is a non issue in my opinion. |
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Kevin Saucier - Adding Value
Posted By: JimCrandell
Tom, |
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Kevin Saucier - Adding Value
Posted By: barrysloate
I'm missing something here. |
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Posted By: pas
No way Rob is going to do that in my opinion. |
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Kevin Saucier - Adding Value
Posted By: Lee Behrens
I have to laugh at all the opinions that seem to attack Jim or Kevin. It seems they have a business venture they are willing to try and feel it will work. If you don't like it, so be it, you obviously won't use it. But if his service makes you more comfartable about making a big purchase than you will more than likely use him. |
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Posted By: barrysloate
Do you know how many consignments an auction house would lose under those circumstances? Why would a consignor agree to that? Again, I may be misunderstanding this. |
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Kevin Saucier - Adding Value
Posted By: JimB
"To my knowledge I don't have any problem cards so I have nothing to share." |
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Kevin Saucier - Adding Value
Posted By: JimCrandell
Barry, |
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Kevin Saucier - Adding Value
Posted By: JimCrandell
JimB, |
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Kevin Saucier - Adding Value
Posted By: pas
Jim C are you suggesting there are lunatics on this Board? |
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Kevin Saucier - Adding Value
Posted By: JimCrandell
Peter, |
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Kevin Saucier - Adding Value
Posted By: JimB
"To my knowledge I don't have any problem cards so I have nothing to share." |
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Kevin Saucier - Adding Value
Posted By: JimCrandell
You know my stance on that. |
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Kevin Saucier - Adding Value
Posted By: Dan Bretta
I'd just like to say I have no problem with Jim C or Kevin and whatever venture they go into I hope is successful. I guess I assumed all this time that both of them were concerned with cleaning up the hobby and getting altered cards out of slabs. That doesn't seem to be the case though. |
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Kevin Saucier - Adding Value
Posted By: barrysloate
Jim- I'm trying to understand what the endorsement means. |
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Kevin Saucier - Adding Value
Posted By: pas
Barry sure why not. I endorse Barack Obama but I would never vote for him. Let's see what Rob says or doesn't say, I guess. |
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Kevin Saucier - Adding Value
Posted By: pas
Jim, if he told you he would have to kill you, you know that. |
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Kevin Saucier - Adding Value
Posted By: Tom Nieves
Also, Jim, I wouldn't be so sure about Larry never having seen any of the cards in your collection. From what I understand, he has a very close relationship with a couple of guys that have sold thousands of cards to you. |
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Kevin Saucier - Adding Value
Posted By: barrysloate
Just a show of hands please: |
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Posted By: 1880nonsports
comfartable is a gas...... |
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Posted By: Jeff Lichtman
I think Kevin is basically starting a service that could conceivably be used by those looking to buy expensive graded cards and just want an assurance that the cards are unaltered. I'm not sure what the problem is. If I saw an expensive card for auction that had Kevin's seal of approval it would probably make me feel better and might impact my bidding. Or it might not. But it might. I don't see that Kevin's business venture has much to lose and perhaps something to gain. |
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Kevin Saucier - Adding Value
Posted By: JimCrandell
Dan, |
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Kevin Saucier - Adding Value
Posted By: Jeff Lichtman
Barry, of course we all think the graders can improve their skills and their track records; however, due to PSA's business practices we all know that such a thing will never happen there -- thus the potential need for a low volume, high end grader like Kevin (at least to review PSA cards; I actually have nearly total comfort with SGC's product). |
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Kevin Saucier - Adding Value
Posted By: JimCrandell
Jeff, |
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Posted By: pas
Marketing ploy? Doesn't sound like REA's style. |
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Kevin Saucier - Adding Value
Posted By: Larry
Jim- |
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Kevin Saucier - Adding Value
Posted By: Rick McQuillan
In a way, isn't PSA already providing a service for high end cards? Sure, you get two day service for 55 bucks, but this is only for cards that are worth $1000-$2499. Any card from $2500-$10K has to go at the $85 level. In addition to the quicker service, one would assume (Oh-Oh) that these higher end cards would be scrutinized more than the VG3 commons. I am being naive about this? |
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Kevin Saucier - Adding Value
Posted By: JimCrandell
Larry, |
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Kevin Saucier - Adding Value
Posted By: Larry
Jim- |
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Kevin Saucier - Adding Value
Posted By: Tom Nieves
Jim, |
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Kevin Saucier - Adding Value
Posted By: JimCrandell
Tom, |
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Kevin Saucier - Adding Value
Posted By: JimCrandell
Larry, |
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Posted By: Larry
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