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Old 06-10-2018, 03:37 PM
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Hi Val
I've taken the liberty of including Eddie Plank. There has to be at least one southpaw in this mix [who is in the same class as your 4 right-handers].

I hope you don't mind, ole buddy.


There are only 5 (or perhaps 6) T206 Plank cards with the SWEET CAPORAL 150, Factory #30 back.


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Cy playing with the local team right after retiring.
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As shown is the Rush thread...Leon's former card
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Ted, Eddie Plank was gertainly a great pitcher, but I would have included Lefty Grove before I included Plank. FYI, the reason I included Alexander instead of Grove (or Plank) is that I felt he enabled my group of 4 great pitchers to best correspond to the time period represented by the 4 great hitters in the other thread.
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WaJo's hands-at-chest pose is tougher than his pitching pose in the 1921 E121-80 American Caramel set. Based on the pop reports, there are likely 20 or more of these h-a-c poses in existence. However, the majority of them would have Type 1 backs (there are 4 back types - see Rhett Y.'s super article in Issue #26 of Old Cardboard Magazine). The Type 4 back is scarce, and furthermore, the back printing on mine reads from bottom-to-top, whereas the back printing on most E121-80s reads from top-to-bottom. Below is my Type 1 back (PSA 2) followed by my Type 4 back (SGC 60):
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Speaking about Johnson (hands-at-chest)....here is his T206 from my all-SOVEREIGN set. It's pop report data is about 20 (+/- 2).
Whatever, it still qualifies being posted here, as it is a good-looking card with the colorful "apple-green" back.







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Young same time frame of 1891
What a great cabinet card! John Thorn made a post about that image before. It makes sense that it would have been produced in 1889, or even before, when Young was playing semi-pro baseball in Uhrichsville.
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I don't think there's a single Grover on here yet, so I'm posting my Oxford Confectionery even though it doesn't quite fit the criteria.

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What a great cabinet card! John Thorn made a post about that image before. It makes sense that it would have been produced in 1889, or even before, when Young was playing semi-pro baseball in Uhrichsville.
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I don't think there's a single Grover on here yet, so I'm posting my Oxford Confectionery even though it doesn't quite fit the criteria.
Stephen, thanks for showing Alexander some love. Actually, there is a D381 of Alexander shown earlier in Post #34.
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W575-1 cards with the Henry A. Johnson backstamp are scarce. Almost all that are known have a purple backstamp (I'm still looking for a WaJo). A very, very few have been found with a turquoise-color backstamp and a different address, as seen on this WaJo. I have also included a card (not a WaJo) with the purple backstamp for comparison.
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Dapper Walter....rppc proof

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My favorite Mathewson I've owned. This M116 is just an amazing portrait. But then again all of these cards always make me drool . Even the graded 1s always Catherine my eye

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My favorite Mathewson I've owned. This M116 is just an amazing portrait. But then again all of these cards always make me drool . Even the graded 1s always Catherine my eye

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I suspect folks are getting tired of seeing black & white WaJo cards with the hands-at-chest pose (but, I love this pose!), so I'll show my last two such cards in the same post. The combined pop reports show seven H801-8 Boston Store cards and eight E135 Collins-McCarthy cards. Anyone willing to part with a WaJo card with the h-a-c pose that I haven't posted in this thread, kindly email me at ekehl333@aol.com.
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Val, if you had more, I'd say keep those posts coming! Nothing quite like seeing rare cards!

As you know, I'm partial to a similar hands-at-chest pose.
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Val, as you know, I'm partial to a similar hands-at-chest pose.
Steve, do you mean ones like this?
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Love those W600's! And Jeff your 14 CJ Matty is just insane.

Here's a couple photos
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Old 06-12-2018, 11:26 PM
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Cy Young....85 years old (circa 1952 NYC gathering of some great Oldtimer's)






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Steve, do you mean ones like this?
Yes, just like that!
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Old 06-13-2018, 06:34 PM
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My favorite T206 Matty pose.

Finding his SOVEREIGN 150 card....as Ringo Starr once sang...."It Don't Come Easy".

This card's combined pop report #'s equal approximately 20.



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Love those W600's! And Jeff your 14 CJ Matty is just insane.

Here's a couple photos
A.J. I LOVE that early Matty!!
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The combined pop reports for the W503 card of WaJo show 2 (mine is raw). Interestingly, the original photo used for this card was sold in the very recent RMY Auction, although there was no mention of this in the lot description - here's the link: https://rmyauctions.com/bids/bidplace?itemid=34378 Unfortunately, I was merely an underbidder for this photo.
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Some amazing cards in this thread thus far, especially Mattys and Youngs. Still hoping to see more Alexanders.

The E122 Am. Caramel WaJo is much tougher (combined pop reports - 8) than either series (80 or 120) of the E121 Am Caramel WaJo.
The ever more rare variation, the PSA E121 holdered E122.
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Since everyone has thoroughly enjoyed seeing (or maybe not) my black & white, real-photo cards of WaJo with the hands-at-chest pose, I assume you are anxious to see b & w, real-photo cards of WaJo with the pitching pose!

There aren't any of this card listed in the pop reports:
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Wonderful card, Val. Here is a WD Boyce Co./W575-1 Alexander and a few others in the scan.


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Since everyone has thoroughly enjoyed seeing (or maybe not) my black & white, real-photo cards of WaJo with the hands-at-chest pose, I assume you are anxious to see b & w, real-photo cards of WaJo with the pitching pose!

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Leon, thanks for the kind words and for showing Alexander some love. Here's another 1-of-1 WaJo with his pitching pose, per the pop reports:
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Lovely stuff everyone!!! Such great eye candy!

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Derek, very nice Piedmont's! one of the toughest and underappreciated issues of the early 20th century. Even ones with nice fronts usually have back damage due to the adhesive gum, making it doubly tough to find problem free examples.
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Getting back to the E121-80s, the pitching pose of WaJo is easier than the hands-at-chest post - there are almost 50 listed in the combined pop reports. However, most of these have the Type 1 backs (the pop reports do not distinguish by back). I am confident there are less than 20 of each with the Type 2 and Type 3 backs, as shown below:
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More Alexander and W503 love.

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I do not know what the pop #'s are on this T202......so whatever, I still had to display it.
I don't have too many T202's, but Johnson is the favorite in my T202 set.





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Ted, I'll give you a pass for your T202 WaJo, provided it has a black Factory 30 back! But really Ted, you should acquire some low-pop cards for your collection! (just teasin' ya, Ted)
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A thread on the main board has pretty much run out of steam when it falls to page 2. Many thanks to everyone who contrbuted their fantastic cards to this thread - fabulous eye candy. Here's one final post of two more low-pop, B & W, real-photo cards (everyone loves these - right?) that were produced from the same photo of WaJo - an E126 and a M101-6:
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It's time to bump this thread up for another round of "oldies, but goodies".





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Old 06-26-2018, 09:22 PM
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Just picked this up from another member and he is teaching me interesting info on t206s.... so here is my new WaJo Sov 350 back... pop 16 on PSA and pop 9 on SGC... so not too far over the 20 mark....
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Old 06-28-2018, 08:17 PM
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Ted & Brian, thanks for keeping this thread alive. I'll help with this E224-1 of WaJo:
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Oh man, that TX Tommy!
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Not enough Alexander here is my favorite.
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I think someone could retire comfortably on the value of the cards in this thread. Here is a Sporting Life something (probably ad cut) WaJo......

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Both variations:
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Val, are they from different years? Why would the same company put out two totally different backs?
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Ryan, as far as I know, both variations are from the same year, however, some cards in this set have been found with a 1927 copyright date. Cards have also been found with blank backs, and these are believed to have been cut from an advertising sheet. Not being a set collector, I don't know much about this set. Here are links to other info re this set, including past Net54 threads:

https://www.google.com/search?q=1926...w=1920&bih=947

http://www.oldcardboard.com/o/h/spor...?cardsetID=980

https://www.psacard.com/cardfacts/mu...ampions/27575/
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As far as I know only Ruth has been found with a 1927 date on it. There are around 3-5 of those known. And one I used to own..




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Ryan, as far as I know, both variations are from the same year, however, some cards in this set have been found with a 1927 copyright date. Cards have also been found with blank backs, and these are believed to have been cut from an advertising sheet. Not being a set collector, I don't know much about this set. Here are links to other info re this set, including past Net54 threads:

https://www.google.com/search?q=1926...w=1920&bih=947

http://www.oldcardboard.com/o/h/spor...?cardsetID=980

https://www.psacard.com/cardfacts/mu...ampions/27575/
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As far as I know only Ruth has been found with a 1927 date on it. There are around 3-5 of those known.
Leon, Jack Dempsey is known to exist with both 1926 and 1927 copyright dates, which leads me to suspect there might be others. See post #18 in this old Net54 thread for pics of both Dempsey cards: http://www.net54baseball.com/showthread.php?t=78580
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Low pop on this Willard I just picked up.
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Ole Cy hasn't been seen for a week or two...

and thanks for the info, Val!!

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