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Why Aren't More Higher Grades Posted?
Posted By: Bob Pomilla
David, |
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Why Aren't More Higher Grades Posted?
Posted By: cmoking
When i tell someone I collect cards, they ask: "oh, do you want to buy my 80s and 90s crap?" |
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Why Aren't More Higher Grades Posted?
Posted By: barry arnold
i remember when one of my nephews was promoted to asst. mgr. of kentucky fried chicken and would barely speak to any of the family for a bit because |
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Why Aren't More Higher Grades Posted?
Posted By: warshawlaw
Post a few; I'd rather look at her than a bunch of dead white guys in baggy uni's |
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Why Aren't More Higher Grades Posted?
Posted By: Dan Bretta
As far as trolls go this was a pretty good one. The bait was stinky and the catch far exceeded the legal limit. |
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Why Aren't More Higher Grades Posted?
Posted By: martin dalziel
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Why Aren't More Higher Grades Posted?
Posted By: Mike Ernst
This type of disparity of viewpoints is not unique to the baseball card hobby, as pointed out earlier. |
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Why Aren't More Higher Grades Posted?
Posted By: Judge Dred (Fred)
Maybe people just don't want to sell their 7's, 8's and 9's on the BST. Does that mean that there's something wrong with the BST? No, it just means that people that use the BST aren't interested in selling their higher graded cards via this channel (or at all). |
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Why Aren't More Higher Grades Posted?
Posted By: JimB
Bruce, |
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Why Aren't More Higher Grades Posted?
Posted By: bruce Dorskind
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Why Aren't More Higher Grades Posted?
Posted By: Richard Masson
Jay, Bill Orsatti called. |
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Why Aren't More Higher Grades Posted?
Posted By: Bottom of the Ninth
Is it just me or does Bruce simply just come off as a complete tool? |
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Why Aren't More Higher Grades Posted?
Posted By: fkw
Id like to see a 7,8,9 of one of these cards!! If they exist you can count them on one hand. |
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Why Aren't More Higher Grades Posted?
Posted By: Mark
...because it takes time to soak and stretch, then re-cut the cards into PSA 7, 8 and 9's...... |
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Why Aren't More Higher Grades Posted?
Posted By: Judge Dred (Fred)
Greg, did you mean stool or tool? |
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Why Aren't More Higher Grades Posted?
Posted By: Bottom of the Ninth
Hey Fred, |
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Why Aren't More Higher Grades Posted?
Posted By: John S
It was never a goal of mine to have the world's finest collection or to take pride in paying record prices for cards. That's the kind of crap Mr. Mint advertises and that is what has turned the hobby into an industry. Worse yet, it has made the hobby a competitive outlet for some individuals. Join a flag football team or a bowling league. Collecting cards is enjoyable for me and a diversion. I look forward to someday telling my son and hopefully daughter stories about the football and baseball players in my collection. If collecting is an ego thing then you are in it for the wrong reasons. Bragging about prices and having the cards with the sharpest corners....BFD. You hurl accusations of insecurity; take a look in the mirror pal. |
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Why Aren't More Higher Grades Posted?
Posted By: JimCrandell
Bruce, |
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Why Aren't More Higher Grades Posted?
Posted By: E, Daniel
Bruce, you're a pompous ass. |
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Why Aren't More Higher Grades Posted?
Posted By: Chad
If the market for mid-grade cards collapsed--that is, those of us who deal with the world of creases and dinged corners decided since we can't afford the "best" then screw it--what would happen to the value of the higest grade cards? That is, what would happen if only the handful of collectors, relatively, were left to duke it out for the 8's and 9's while the 5's and lowers went completely ignored because the large mass of card collectors abandoned the hobby? This is kind of rhetorical as I think the entire hobby would collapse but I'm often wrong. Am I wrong? Again, this isn't to knock the high end collectors, but just to say I think it's healthy for the hobby that people have a passion for the high and low end of the spectrum.The publicity of the high end stuff attracts collectors and the low end stuff allows them to actually participate. So yeah, tool and stool sound about right. |
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Why Aren't More Higher Grades Posted?
Posted By: Lee Behrens
I paid the most of anyone in Alexandria, MN for a baseball card!!!!!!!!! |
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Why Aren't More Higher Grades Posted?
Posted By: warshawlaw
I don't think he means to be condescending, arrogant and obnoxious; he just can't help it. Imagine being so bunged up that you have to compete (with yourself) for the best (of the best of the best, sir!). |
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Why Aren't More Higher Grades Posted?
Posted By: honus3415
I basically find it hard to consider someone a collector when their expectation is to sit back and have the items they desire come to them. But then that is what money has done to this hobby. No longer is a collector identifiable by his knowledge and dedication through time spent directly involved in the hobby. The electronic age and grading has created pseudo-collectors that because of their resources, without even taking a step, can use a mouse and attempt to fill the void of emptiness in their lives. The selfishness of "hoarding from others" as opposed to "sharing with others" is what seperates the pseudo-collector from the true collector as well as animals from man. |
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Why Aren't More Higher Grades Posted?
Posted By: cmoking
I say 'wow'. Not at Bruce's posts....but at many of the responses in this thread. |
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Why Aren't More Higher Grades Posted?
Posted By: Anonymous
Yes to tool. |
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Why Aren't More Higher Grades Posted?
Posted By: Frank Evanov
"So call me a snob, an elitist or a capitalist" |
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Why Aren't More Higher Grades Posted?
Posted By: JimCrandell
King, |
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Why Aren't More Higher Grades Posted?
Posted By: davidcycleback
My collecting philosophy is that a person collect whatever he wants, so long as he's knowledgeable about what he collects. It's fine to collect 2 cent postcards, as long as you don't pay $150 each for them. There's nothing wrong with collecting mass produced reprints, so long as you don't think they're rare originals. |
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Why Aren't More Higher Grades Posted?
Posted By: Chad
But I don't see anything particularly harsh about the replies in this thread. In fact, looking back on the post that started it all, I'm really more entertained than irked. Mr. Dorskind comes across as a man of many resources and all the gravitas of a millionaire trapped on a desert island with a skipper a movie star and a professor who can make radios from coconuts. In fact, I'd really like to have a beer with him. Imported beer of course and at a bar that doesn't have a Megatouch machine or a jar of anything pickled sitting on the bar. |
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Why Aren't More Higher Grades Posted?
Posted By: Al Crisafulli
There's nothing at all wrong with collecting only the higher-grade cards. |
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Why Aren't More Higher Grades Posted?
Posted By: JimCrandell
Chad, |
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Why Aren't More Higher Grades Posted?
Posted By: Chad
I just think that those comments you mention are directed at Bruce and not high grade collectors in general. I always like seeing your stuff posted, especially the Mattys. And like I said, I think the hobby is better off for having people who love the gem mint 10's to the most awful of beaters. Anyway, happy Derby day. I'm off to make my bets! |
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Why Aren't More Higher Grades Posted?
Posted By: jay behrens
Chad, I'm disappointed. It's not a real bar if doesn't have a jar of pickled eggs. Nothing like the aftereffects of those and beer Throw in some jalapenos and you've got a truely dangerous combo. |
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Why Aren't More Higher Grades Posted?
Posted By: jay behrens
Jim, no one is denigrating what or how Bruce collects. They are more stunned that he fails to realize why he doesn't see the things he wants to see. If has a true understanding of the hobby and marketplace, then it should be pretty obvious to him, since it is to most others. |
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Why Aren't More Higher Grades Posted?
Posted By: JimCrandell
Jay, |
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Why Aren't More Higher Grades Posted?
Posted By: jay behrens
You say it's name calling, I say it's acurrately decsribing two pompous, arragant, jerks. If looks like a duck, walks like a duck and quacks like a duck, I'm gonna call it a duck. I'm not going call it anything else. |
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Why Aren't More Higher Grades Posted?
Posted By: Andrew Parks
Bruce, |
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Why Aren't More Higher Grades Posted?
Posted By: warshawlaw
Bruce started off complaining about why it was that no one was posting high grade cards as recent acquisitions. Fair enough. But he took it further by then stating that the grade was what matters ("When it comes to rare baseball cards, nothing is more important that the quality of the image...the grade!!"). To many collectors this is waving a red cape in front of a bull because from finance or preference they don't see collecting that way. The responses were as would be expected. Bruce then threw oil on the fire by posting again, this time making statements that were perhaps unintentionally offensive: |
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Why Aren't More Higher Grades Posted?
Posted By: JimCrandell
Well I was going to be like Jay and be an a-hole but I got an e-mail saying Jim--take the high road-- so I will. |
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Why Aren't More Higher Grades Posted?
Posted By: honus3415
Jim |
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Why Aren't More Higher Grades Posted?
Posted By: Jeff Lichtman
I wonder if Bruce had been the opposite type of collector - collecting beaters and harrumphing anyone dumb enough to buy PSA 8 and up - if the collective responses would have been so harsh and personally insulting. Is it psychologically easier to attack a rich guy because deep in your heart you know he has enough assets to make it all better? |
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Why Aren't More Higher Grades Posted?
Posted By: bruce dorskind
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Why Aren't More Higher Grades Posted?
Posted By: E, Daniel
In fact, your musing has me surprised!! |
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Why Aren't More Higher Grades Posted?
Posted By: JimCrandell
Manners??? What are they?? Much more important in the eyes of at least one to let the insults fly and keep at least some serious collectors from posting on this board. |
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Why Aren't More Higher Grades Posted?
Posted By: Bob Pomilla
"Time for the Board members to get some manners and for everyone |
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Why Aren't More Higher Grades Posted?
Posted By: John S
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Why Aren't More Higher Grades Posted?
Posted By: Ryan Christoff
Hell, I'm just impressed it took nearly 90 posts on this thread for someone toss in a Nazi reference. |
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Why Aren't More Higher Grades Posted?
Posted By: Frank Evanov
"The level of hate expressed by certain collectors against other |
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Why Aren't More Higher Grades Posted?
Posted By: Anonymous
Yo...Davalillo...nobody here is jealous of you. |
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Why Aren't More Higher Grades Posted?
Posted By: JimCrandell
Dave, |
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