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Old 02-18-2012, 09:33 PM
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Good news; stopped seller from getting money. Amazingly, he claims he can consummate transaction:


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Dear lionsabcd,

Hello, I was going to ship first thing morning. Please close the case # 375060436 . The money is frozen on my PayPal account. If you don't close the case, I will refund you and relist the item again on eBay. Thanks

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Thanks to the good guys on the board this apparent fraud was thwarted.
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They should make the seller scan the card with today newspaper to prove he owns the card before allowing to relist.

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Old 02-19-2012, 01:36 AM
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The real owner of the card should contact the FBI and let them know that he owns the card and then they can set up a sting operation to get the guy on eBay.

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The real owner of the card should contact the FBI and let them know that he owns the card and then they can set up a sting operation to get the guy on eBay.

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From my experiences, The FBI doesn't go after every situation. This is probably more of a local law enforcement issue. Since no one has been defrauded I doubt it would go too far even there.....though, as collectors, we would like to see the scum would-be fraudster in jail. Now if there was a transfer of money and someone was out 20k-30k, then their local law enforcement would probably take notice and help AND, if sent through the mail, they could call on Postal Inspectors for potential help. None of this is set in stone but just my view from knowing a little bit about the processes.
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From my experiences, The FBI doesn't go after every situation. This is probably more of a local law enforcement issue. Since no one has been defrauded I doubt it would go too far even there.....though, as collectors, we would like to see the scum would-be fraudster in jail. Now if there was a transfer of money and someone was out 20k-30k, then their local law enforcement would probably take notice and help AND, if sent through the mail, they could call on Postal Inspectors for potential help. None of this is set in stone but just my view from knowing a little bit about the processes.

If it's interstate, then it's Federal. Since it would be considered fraud there's a number of agencies with jurisdiction. Generally though there's actually need to be some type of loss in order to act, and postal would be perfect for this type of fraud since the parcel never needs to actually be mailed for them to charge. There only needs to be the intention to use the mail in a fraudulent manner. Either way no AUSA would take this case, but it doesn't stop them going through the state on applicable charges.


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If it's interstate, then it's Federal. Since it would be considered fraud there's a number of agencies with jurisdiction. Generally though there's actually need to be some type of loss in order to act, and postal would be perfect for this type of fraud since the parcel never needs to actually be mailed for them to charge. There only needs to be the intention to use the mail in a fraudulent manner. Either way no AUSA would take this case, but it doesn't stop them going through the state on applicable charges.


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And as a plus, there's no statute of limitations on postal crimes.

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