Piedmont Cards / ACE Authenticated Babe Ruth Signed Silver Certificates

[RichardSimon]

Originally Posted by GrayGhost

. On an aside, a lot of the Matty stuff, and other stuff looks EERILY similar to stuff I have seen on Coach's. Someone is buying that crap and trying to move it, not just dumb dealers. Im NOT accusing Mr Prisco of that, but its apparent someone is taking that route.

Making strides in the fight against these crooks is better than standing w feet in quicksand.

If only Frank Prisco would come forward and talk to LE about his sources of these items.
If they are the same sources as CC, we could finally bury CC.
Wouldn't that be a nice fringe benefit of this mess.
Frank - I appeal to you to write to me privately and I can help you get in touch with the right people.

[thetruthisoutthere]

Originally Posted by RichardSimon

If only Frank Prisco would come forward and talk to LE about his sources of these items.
If they are the same sources as CC, we could finally bury CC.
Wouldn't that be a nice fringe benefit of this mess.
Frank - I appeal to you to write to me privately and I can help you get in touch with the right people.

Richard, I wish I could be optimistic about that kind of action being taken, but I'm not.

In my opinion, it's easy to speculate that if Mr. Prisco had thirteen (13) Christy Mathewson cut signatures up for sale on his website, and if, as he wrote, already sold four other Christy Mathewson cut sigs, is it possible that the total number he's purchased over the years could total 30, 50, 75, 100, etc?

For one person to be able to purchase seventeen (17) Christy Mathewson cut sigs is incomprehensible. And for one authenticator (Justin Priddy, ACE) not to raise an eyebrow at that number is also incomprehensible.

But, no matter what the number is, the cut sigs are horrific.

[murphusa]

how the world turns, this week we visited a relative of my wife's. Unbeknown to me was that he had an autpgraph business in an antique mall. When we went to his booth I could tell something was wrong and asked where he obtained his material. He said Coaches Corner. I told him the truth about the company and he stated proudly that in 5 years of doing business he only had one return which he sent back to CC and was given a full refund,

To him they are a company that stands behind their product.


I could never change this guys mind

[RichardSimon]

Originally Posted by murphusa

how the world turns, this week we visited a relative of my wife's. Unbeknown to me was that he had an autpgraph business in an antique mall. When we went to his booth I could tell something was wrong and asked where he obtained his material. He said Coaches Corner. I told him the truth about the company and he stated proudly that in 5 years of doing business he only had one return which he sent back to CC and was given a full refund,

To him they are a company that stands behind their product.


I could never change this guys mind

Scares me to think that a guy like this probably has a drivers license and a voter registration card.
I don't believe this guy at all. How could an "autograph dealer" look at CC every month and not know that they are selling crap.
Perhaps they are fooling the occasional, casual buyer but a dealer? No, I don't believe that any dealer who has bought from them for five years does not know that they are selling crap.

[David Atkatz]

But you seem to believe (based on your pleas) that Frank is just an innocent dupe of the evil fraudsters.

[murphusa]

He sells used records and other stuff so the autographs are a sideline. Most of the stuff is from the entertainment side of things. He believes because CC has backed him the one time he got the return.

Like I said I could not convince him they were bad

[Exhibitman]

Scary stuff, that's for sure.

I was nearly burned on a Marciano wife-signed piece; I recognized the handwriting instantly when I saw the exemplars posted here. It was a PC postmarked in 1956, so he was having her sign stuff even then. JSA caught and rejected it at the National.

[thetruthisoutthere]

Originally Posted by David Atkatz

But you seem to believe (based on your pleas) that Frank is just an innocent dupe of the evil fraudsters.

This is not to speak for everyone else here, David, but I don't think anyone believes that.

[thetruthisoutthere]

In my opinion, when it comes to authenticating autographs, Justin Priddy (ACE) now resides in the same circle as Chris Morales and Ted Taylor.

[mr2686]

I'm wondering if you take 4 or 5 of the top, most respected and ethical dealers in the hobby, and ask them how many Matty's they have handled in their combined years as dealers, what the total number would be? Hmmmmmmm