Pete Rose RC SGC 98

[afklin]

This ebay auction seems legit. It would be interesting to know whats the true market price on this card, at least ebay market price. Do you think there may be more price manipulation by big auction house? I dont understand how can this card drop from $28,000 to $20,000 (including buyer premium) in less a year

[bobbyw8469]

Big auction houses are the same as Ebay. It all depends on who is seeing the card at any given time.

[afklin]

Which auction houses are legit, which are known to manipulate price.

[Jim VB]

Originally Posted by afklin

I dont understand how can this card drop from $28,000 to $20,000 (including buyer premium) in less a year

In a thinly traded item, one buyer can make a huge difference. The first time it sold, two or more buyers drove it to $28,000. Once one of them became the seller, instead of a bidder, it dropped. Not difficult to understand.

Originally Posted by afklin

Which auction houses are legit, which are known to manipulate price.

NONE of the current auction houses are KNOWN to manipulate prices. Several, however, are rumored to be guilty of this. Naming them, without proof, would be a big mistake. Do a search of the archives here and see what has been said about different houses.

And, should you meet some of these guys in person, and shake hands with them, count your fingers before you leave.

[Peter_Spaeth]

Since this thread has veered off topic anyhow....

1963 Stargell RC, SGC 88.
http://www.huntauctions.com/phone/im...79&lot_num=697

So far, so good, but then
(1) submitted in holder to PSA for crossover, rejected
(2) cracked out and submittted to PSA, rejected for trimming
(3) submitted to SGC hoping to get back into an 88, and:

12 1963 Topps 553 WILLIE STARGELL ROOKIE High# 0 - T7

[afklin]

Can someone measure and see if this Rose SGC 98 is trimmed? I thought about placing a bid at the last moment before the auction end, hope to win this card as long as this card is not sheet-cut, or altered in anyway.
Based on my nonprofessional view, this card looks too good to be true for a 1963 card.

[Jim VB]

Originally Posted by afklin

Can someone measure and see if this Rose SGC 98 is trimmed? I thought about placing a bid at the last moment before the auction end, hope to win this card as long as this card is not sheet-cut, or altered in anyway.
Based on my nonprofessional view, this card looks too good to be true for a 1963 card.

Stop. Please stop.

[benchod]

Peter returns

[Jim VB]

Originally Posted by benchod

Peter returns

I know which Peter you meant.


Did Shoeless Joe really play the outfield barefoot?

[Leon]

Originally Posted by Jim VB

Stop. Please stop.

Your questions seem a bit elementary (I am being polite) for someone about to spend 20k on a card. Maybe you need to kick back a little and learn a bit more before you continually make these statements or ask these questions? (actually, after more experience you won't make these statements)

[bobbyw8469]

Hey Peter? Are you the owner of that Stargell?? That is a tough break! Does it look trimmed to you, or do you think it still looks good?