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Old 11-25-2010, 09:32 AM
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Using the words meth and nazi's to justify your business? Unbelievable. The mere fact that whole reprint is evenly aged except for the copyright which is completely removed speaks volumes towards your target audience and your business ethics. You should be ashamed of yourself and should feel guilty for the role you have played in all the dishonest transactions these cards have been involved in on Ebay since you started your business, even if you weren't directly involved.
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Old 11-25-2010, 10:38 AM
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Default I agree with everything said above

And I'm all for banning this guy, although I doubt that will stop him from trying to make a buck at other people's expenses.
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Old 11-25-2010, 08:22 PM
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These cards have been around long before I got into the hobby of selling reprints and they will be around long after I am gone. I bought these cards from people selling them on Ebay.

I still say its more of an uneducated buyer issue than a moral argument. If you are going to invest in something you better know about it before you invest. If not then these cards could possibly be used in fraudulent activity.

Education of buyers not demise of capitalism


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Using the words meth and nazi's to justify your business? Unbelievable. The mere fact that whole reprint is evenly aged except for the copyright which is completely removed speaks volumes towards your target audience and your business ethics. You should be ashamed of yourself and should feel guilty for the role you have played in all the dishonest transactions these cards have been involved in on Ebay since you started your business, even if you weren't directly involved.
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Old 11-25-2010, 08:39 PM
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I still believe an educated buyer wouldn't fall for a reprint but an uneducated buyer might. But these are the same people who respond to Nigerian Chain letters, buy lottery tickets and believe every too good to be true thing that pops up in there lives.
We were all new to this hobby and uneducated at some point. An influx of new people of all ages joining this hobby is the only thing that can sustain it's growth. Saying that it is fine if they get taken by a scam artist because they "should know better" is asinine. I could care less if you want to sell these fakes (in the right section), but your responses to the legitimate concerns of fellow hobbyist should be handled with a bit less crass.
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Old 11-25-2010, 08:53 PM
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Default Good Word Finley. Asinine. I had to look it up

My crass to the concerns of board members fell right in line of those responses I received after the initial post.

"This is a joke, right?"

"Some board members cringed (like myself) while others defended his right to sell his junk here ..."

"If you are going to sell this crap"

"Besides the fact that this is disgusting"

I was put in a position where I felt the need to defend my post. The Nazi and socialism references were maybe a bit extreme but I had to defend the right to express my civil liberties.

A few things you should know while living in a free democracy just in case you are new to it.
1. If its on TV: Turn the channel
2. If you don't like the laws: Go Vote
3. If you don't like the product: Don't Buy It


I'll end with a quote from one of my favorite political activists.

You measure a democracy by the freedom it gives its dissidents, not the freedom it gives its assimilated conformists.
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We were all new to this hobby and uneducated at some point. An influx of new people of all ages joining this hobby is the only thing that can sustain it's growth. Saying that it is fine if they get taken by a scam artist because they "should know better" is asinine. I could care less if you want to sell these fakes (in the right section), but your responses to the legitimate concerns of fellow hobbyist should be handled with a bit less crass.
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Old 11-25-2010, 09:08 PM
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If I understand your screen name to represent what you do for a living I assume you are a CPA. Your profession over the last 10 years have been plagued by immoral acts that did far worse to the nation than a few reprint baseball cards. Hmm... ENRON!!

CPA's do tax write-offs here, have "business lunches" and list attic space as a home office.

It's hard to believe someone who's associates basically dove us into a recession by inflating companies net worth's, cooking books and destroying trust in financial institutions would have such a problem with a few reprints.

Hows your quarterly's looking?



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Using the words meth and nazi's to justify your business? Unbelievable. The mere fact that whole reprint is evenly aged except for the copyright which is completely removed speaks volumes towards your target audience and your business ethics. You should be ashamed of yourself and should feel guilty for the role you have played in all the dishonest transactions these cards have been involved in on Ebay since you started your business, even if you weren't directly involved.
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Old 11-25-2010, 09:30 PM
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Prior to the unwarranted, idiotic attack on another member's legitimate and honorable profession, I was on the fence as to whether a ban or suspension as suggested by others would be appropriate. I was unreasonably optimistic that the poster could be shown the error of his ways. Obviously, that is not going to happen. The OP is morally bankrupt and has no clue as to the true meaning of the civil liberties he claims to embrace.
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Old 11-25-2010, 09:43 PM
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How much for the Ruth?
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Old 11-25-2010, 10:19 PM
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LOL. I never thought my professional choice would get ripped on a baseball card forum. For the record, I am a CPA. I think it would be a stretch to blame the latest recession on CPA's (or Enron). I don't know a single CPA that sold a sub-prime mortgage. Yes, when I prepare peoples taxes, there is a certain amount of "writing off" that occurs. But there is this minor detail called the tax code that guides us as to what is legal and not legal. Most everything is in black and white. A very similar code exists with copyright laws. But I'm sure your not interested in hearing about those laws.
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So would you say "writing off business lunches or supplies" is governed by black and white or falls under the gray area and can be interpreted in different ways as taking legal copyrighted reprints and altering them to appear aged?

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LOL. I never thought my professional choice would get ripped on a baseball card forum. For the record, I am a CPA. I think it would be a stretch to blame the latest recession on CPA's (or Enron). I don't know a single CPA that sold a sub-prime mortgage. Yes, when I prepare peoples taxes, there is a certain amount of "writing off" that occurs. But there is this minor detail called the tax code that guides us as to what is legal and not legal. Most everything is in black and white. A very similar code exists with copyright laws. But I'm sure your not interested in hearing about those laws.
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Old 11-25-2010, 10:56 PM
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I'm afraid your just too unknowledgeable of the subject to have an intelligent conversation. However, I will answer your question simply for the entertainment value. If you are a business, you are allowed to "write off" 50% of meals and entertainment expenses. You obviously need to provide receipts and have some type of record that the expense is business-related (in the event of an audit). Business supplies can be deducted 100%.

In your case, for your business, you would be able to deduct (write-off) the cost of the legitimate reprint cards and aging chemicals (aka business supplies). If you go to lunch with you reprint card salesperson, you get to deduct 50% of that meal as long as you were discussing business. Not much of a gray area.
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Old 11-25-2010, 11:06 PM
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You must work for H&R block and don't understand the complexity of today's tax laws and the room built in for interpretation in those laws by lawmakers.




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I'm afraid your just too unknowledgeable of the subject to have an intelligent conversation. However, I will answer your question simply for the entertainment value. If you are a business, you are allowed to "write off" 50% of meals and entertainment expenses. You obviously need to provide receipts and have some type of record that the expense is business-related (in the event of an audit). Business supplies can be deducted 100%.

In your case, for your business, you would be able to deduct (write-off) the cost of the legitimate reprint cards and aging chemicals (aka business supplies). If you go to lunch with you reprint card salesperson, you get to deduct 50% of that meal as long as you were discussing business. Not much of a gray area.
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